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    Re: Terrorist found not guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah wow. Truth hurts don't it.


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    Maybe. Put some truth in your post instead of empty partisan rhetoric and we'll find out.
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    Re: Terrorist found not guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Maybe. Put some truth in your post instead of empty partisan rhetoric and we'll find out.
    That's how I see it. But as usual you jump to the lib defense.....Look Ikari I don't have any particular beef with anyone in here, but I will say what I think and an opinion is neither true or false, it is what it is....Now I suppose you can insert your little insult here.


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    Re: Terrorist found not guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Look at what I'm arguing. He's arguing AGAINST inadmissibility. Under his construct, there would be no ruling and it would be admitted.
    So am I. As it stands, ANY flaw in the investigation or the prosecution results in the criminal going free. IMO a better approach would be sanctions against police or prosecutor for errors or omissions, but I do not think society is well served by letting a criminal off the hook completely as is done with the present system.
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    Re: Terrorist found not guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    There is a certain measure of that to be sure, I admit it. But come on man, this guy is a joke. Period. Certainly not the genius he was portrayed to be in the campaign.
    If you think I'm defending him, you are sorely mistaken. There are a myriad of reasons to legitimately criticize him. This one, however, is petty.
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh, and all you seem to complain about lately Coronado is how everyone is so partisan, but it is funny you only unleash that swipe when a conservative posts....Or at least that is how it seems.
    I can understand why it would seem that way to you. Liberal sycophants label me a conservative, and conservative sycophants label me a liberal. In any event, my posting history is no secret. If you cared to back that bull**** up, you have more than enough evidence to do so. However, you and I both know you don't have the balls to do it. You'll just babble out some sort of weak ad hominem you think is witty and slink away like you do from anyone who challenges your paradigm.

    By the way, if you want to go after me, there is a place for that, and this isn't it.
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    Maybe a question could be that if it annoys you so to respond to what you consider a 'partisan hack' thread, why you bother?
    Strictly for my own entertainment.
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    I think this speaks for itself.
    I'm sure you do.

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    Re: Terrorist found not guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    So am I. As it stands, ANY flaw in the investigation or the prosecution results in the criminal going free. IMO a better approach would be sanctions against police or prosecutor for errors or omissions, but I do not think society is well served by letting a criminal off the hook completely as is done with the present system.
    Dude. Read the exchange. I was describing what could happen if there were no exclusionary rule and everything was admissible. You quoted me and said "but the judge could rule it inadmissible."
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    Re: Terrorist found not guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That's how I see it. But as usual you jump to the lib defense.....Look Ikari I don't have any particular beef with anyone in here, but I will say what I think and an opinion is neither true or false, it is what it is....Now I suppose you can insert your little insult here.


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    I don't jump to either side. But people were bitching how some are saying "It's all Bush's fault", and I was merely reminding people that they pulled the same card with the It's all Clinton's fault crap that went on for the first half of Bush's presidency. It's the same crap. Partisan hackery and nothing more.
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    It's William the Conqueror's fault. He really is the hard stop of responsibility.
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    Re: Terrorist found not guilty

    I don't jump to either side. But people were bitching how some are saying "It's all Bush's fault", and I was merely reminding people that they pulled the same card with the It's all Clinton's fault crap that went on for the first half of Bush's presidency. It's the same crap. Partisan hackery and nothing more.
    Personally I blame the American people when things go wrong. When you have power over something you have responsibility for it, and all political authority proceeds from the people.

    Americans seem to want their representatives to tailor economic, cultural, and political realities according to their tastes, down to the letter. Even a tyrant wouldn't enjoy the level of control necessary to make Americans happy. And yet, in spite of their lofty demands, they contribute very little to the political process.
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    Re: Terrorist found not guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah wow. Truth hurts don't it.


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    Lol, I can't even respond dude. I'm not mad or anything like that. I stand in awe. You have truly brought debating to an art form. I am thoroughly disappointed in myself for even trying to debate you. Remember, if anyone else criticizes your posts or debate style, it must be because they're jealous. No other reasonable explanation...

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    Re: Terrorist found not guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Personally I blame the American people when things go wrong. When you have power over something you have responsibility for it, and all political authority proceeds from the people.
    Ok, yes. Ultimately all responsibility and blame does fall upon us. We're the ones who are supposed to control government and ensure that it is properly limited. When things start breaking down, it is due to our negligence.

    "I apprehend no danger to our country from a foreign foe . . . Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence, I must confess that I do apprehend some danger. I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants, and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men, and become the instruments of their own undoing. Make them intelligent, and they will be vigilant; give them the means of detecting the wrong, and they will apply the remedy."
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