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    Re: Terrorist found not guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I don't recall Bush claiming that everything that happened was Clinton's fault like Obama is doing to him. Bush has a lot more class. Obama is no better than Carter.

    If Holder had tried him in front of a military tribunal, the methods they used to find out who he bought explosives from would be moot.


    As late as 2008, Bush was still blaming Clinton:

    "…the senior administration official says the budgetary problems stem from what is believed to be inadequate defense, intelligence and homeland security resources that were handed down from Clinton."

    http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/07/28/…

    Other examples:

    "Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, in separate speeches Wednesday, both claimed the U.S. economy was already in recession when they were inaugurated in January 2001, implying the blame for the slowdown rested on President Clinton's shoulders."

    http://money.cnn.com/2002/08/07/news/eco…

    "President George W. Bush on Thursday blamed President Bill Clinton's administration for the loss of hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs. Bush warned against backing the Democratic ticket in November because of a "hidden Kerry tax plan."

    http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/omni/3538…

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    9/11: "They looked at our response after the hostage crisis in Iran, the bombings of the Marine barracks in Lebanon, the first World Trade Center attack, the killing of American soldiers in Somalia, the destruction of two U.S. embassies in Africa, and the attack on the USS Cole. They concluded that free societies lacked the courage and character to defend themselves against a determined enemy…"

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Terrorist found not guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    9/11: "They looked at our response after the hostage crisis in Iran, the bombings of the Marine barracks in Lebanon, the first World Trade Center attack, the killing of American soldiers in Somalia, the destruction of two U.S. embassies in Africa, and the attack on the USS Cole. They concluded that free societies lacked the courage and character to defend themselves against a determined enemy…"
    that's pretty damn accurate
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    Re: Terrorist found not guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Is it really a "defeat"? I mean, if he was so clearly a terrorist, then the State should have had clear evidence to gain a conviction.

    Yes, it is a defeat, and a rather large one. I am sure you know full well the standards of evidence, and the pitfalls included in a civilian trial here in America, as opposed to a military tribunal where he should have been. Oh, and the defeat is recognized by the Obama circus as well, fore KSM will now stay in GITMO until he stands that MT. And GITMO will remain open.

    I'd say after this last couple of weeks it is a severe uphill battle for Obama's administration to be seen as anything other than a complete incompetent failure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado
    It's a defeat in the minds of partisan cheerleaders only. I rather doubt the defendant is doing backflips about the prospect of doing twenty to life in solitary.

    Some of the idiotic partisan hacks on this board would start a thread gloating over Obama's gross incompetence if he had missed a spot shaving that morning.
    There is a certain measure of that to be sure, I admit it. But come on man, this guy is a joke. Period. Certainly not the genius he was portrayed to be in the campaign.

    Oh, and all you seem to complain about lately Coronado is how everyone is so partisan, but it is funny you only unleash that swipe when a conservative posts....Or at least that is how it seems. Maybe a question could be that if it annoys you so to respond to what you consider a 'partisan hack' thread, why you bother?

    I think this speaks for itself.


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    Re: Terrorist found not guilty

    Obama is a pussy, of course he'll agree with someone who calls this a failure. If the man had the testicular fortitude, he'd stand up and take credit for his victories. We caught the bad guy and convicted him, legally and honestly. This is a win.
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    Re: Terrorist found not guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    As late as 2008, Bush was still blaming Clinton:

    "…the senior administration official says the budgetary problems stem from what is believed to be inadequate defense, intelligence and homeland security resources that were handed down from Clinton."

    Pensito Review » 2008 » July » 28

    Other examples:

    "Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, in separate speeches Wednesday, both claimed the U.S. economy was already in recession when they were inaugurated in January 2001, implying the blame for the slowdown rested on President Clinton's shoulders."

    http://money.cnn.com/2002/08/07/news/eco…

    "President George W. Bush on Thursday blamed President Bill Clinton's administration for the loss of hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs. Bush warned against backing the Democratic ticket in November because of a "hidden Kerry tax plan."

    http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/omni/3538…

    ""Well, we've tried summits in the past, as you may remember. It wasn't all that long ago where a summit was called and nothing happened, and as a result we had significant intifada in the area.

    Whopper of the week: George W. Bush. - By Timothy Noah - Slate Magazine

    9/11: "They looked at our response after the hostage crisis in Iran, the bombings of the Marine barracks in Lebanon, the first World Trade Center attack, the killing of American soldiers in Somalia, the destruction of two U.S. embassies in Africa, and the attack on the USS Cole. They concluded that free societies lacked the courage and character to defend themselves against a determined enemy…"
    I see, so repubs are supposed to just sit back and let demo's shred them and their record with the lies they tell is that it? Part of what you cite is campaigning, and part of it is politics. Problem with demo's is that when a conservative says something they did that damaged the country chances they are correct in their claim, when demo's do it, it usually is based on pure hyperbole, and facetious claims that are thrown out there to either distract, or divert in some way.

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    Re: Terrorist found not guilty

    Obama and Holder wanted to use this case to establish a legal precedent for the prosecution of Gitmo detainees in US civilian courts.

    The legal precedent was not established. The DOJ legal team left the courtroom in absolute silence. This verdict was a major defeat for Holder, Obama and what's left of America.

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    Re: Terrorist found not guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I see, so repubs are supposed to just sit back and let demo's shred them and their record with the lies they tell is that it? Part of what you cite is campaigning, and part of it is politics. Problem with demo's is that when a conservative says something they did that damaged the country chances they are correct in their claim, when demo's do it, it usually is based on pure hyperbole, and facetious claims that are thrown out there to either distract, or divert in some way.

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    Wow.......

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    Re: Terrorist found not guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Wow.......
    I'm pretty sure that's one of the most blatantly partisan posts ever.

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    Re: Terrorist found not guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Wow.......
    Yeah wow. Truth hurts don't it.


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    Re: Terrorist found not guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I'm pretty sure that's one of the most blatantly partisan posts ever.

    LOL....Really now? LOL


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