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    Re: Ex-Gitmo Detainee Ahmed Ghailani Cleared of All but One Charge in U.S. Embassy Bo

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    I fail to understand how you can blame Obama here, unless you are an attorney and really know the case, which I doubt. In fact, if you want to blame a president, blame the previous guy for torturing the key witness, which got the witness excluded from testifying..... that all said, its pretty academic as enough charges stuck to lock the guy up for life.
    President Obama appointed Eric Holder as Attorney General. Eric Holder decided to employ a prosecutorial strategy which caused the US Govt. to lose the case. Thus, Obama is responsible for the actions of his appointee Eric Holder.

    And yes the US Govt. lost the case. Any attorney will confirm the fact that the US Govt. was defeated by the terrorist's legal defense team. And I am familiar with the case.

    Any person who contends that the US Govt. won this case because the defendant was convicted of conspiracy to damage govt. property is clearly not an attorney.

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    Re: Ex-Gitmo Detainee Ahmed Ghailani Cleared of All but One Charge in U.S. Embassy Bo

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    I fail to understand how you can blame Obama here, unless you are an attorney and really know the case, which I doubt. In fact, if you want to blame a president, blame the previous guy for torturing the key witness, which got the witness excluded from testifying..... that all said, its pretty academic as enough charges stuck to lock the guy up for life.
    LOL, right, blame Bush for doing his job? Amazing how some people think or fail to think. Holder and Obama are two of the most incompetent individuals ever to hold office. They are naive on world affairs and don't have a clue as to what they are doing. They continue to treat this as a criminal action instead of an act of war. Radical Islamic terrorists don't believe they have broken any law. Congress made military tribunals available but Obama and Holder wanted to show these animals just how naive they really are. thanks Holder and Obama for making this country the laughing stock of the world. Hope you liberals are happy. What an embarrassment.

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    Re: Ex-Gitmo Detainee Ahmed Ghailani Cleared of All but One Charge in U.S. Embassy Bo

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    The first former Guantanamo Bay detainee to be tried in federal criminal court was found guilty on a single conspiracy charge Wednesday but cleared on 284 other counts. The outcome, a surprise, seriously undermines - and could doom - the Obama administration's plans to put other Guantanamo detainees on trial in U.S. civilian courts.
    Even the liberal media thinks this will be a problem. Why did they bring all the murder charges if they could only get a conviction on the conspiracy charge. This certainly sounds like they don't have a clue about what they are doing.

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    Re: Ex-Gitmo Detainee Ahmed Ghailani Cleared of All but One Charge in U.S. Embassy Bo

    i think this ought to thoroughly demonstrate the foolishness of the idea that we should haul these guys in front of a civilian court with civilian rules of evidence. the damming evidence all got thrown out because it was connected to enhanced interrogation; and now we barely manage to keep a guy who had (at the time of capture) been involved in coordinating multiple mass-casualty high-visibility attacks, had bomb-building supplies in his possession and had near real-time intelligence of many of AQ's highest leadership?

    what a mess.
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    Re: Ex-Gitmo Detainee Ahmed Ghailani Cleared of All but One Charge in U.S. Embassy Bo

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Even the liberal media thinks this will be a problem. Why did they bring all the murder charges if they could only get a conviction on the conspiracy charge. This certainly sounds like they don't have a clue about what they are doing.

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    Obama and Holder were keeping faith with their left wing base. Now their base sees what happens when ideology is allowed to triumph over prosecutorial pragmatism.

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    Re: Ex-Gitmo Detainee Ahmed Ghailani Cleared of All but One Charge in U.S. Embassy Bo

    This is to be expected and you can count on more of it, because of the number of Anti-American leftists in this Country who hate America.

    It can be seen in post right here every day.

    The defense never contested that Ghailani knew some of the plotters. But it claimed he was in the dark about their sinister intentions.
    Under our laws if you are at the wheel of a car and a couple of friends say hey "Bob" pull up to that liquor store over there and they go inside and rob it and kill the clerk in the process you will be tried for murder just like the guy who pulls the trigger.

    In for a penny in for a pound in the law and this is a joke.

    Hopefully some of the general prison population will administer some prison yard justice.

    Normally I'd be apposed to vengeance but when you murder over 200 people I make an exception.

    Those of you who seem to rejoice in this verdict need to decide if you are going to be Americans or not and so far you're not in my book.

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    Re: Ex-Gitmo Detainee Ahmed Ghailani Cleared of All but One Charge in U.S. Embassy Bo

    The word ‘cleared’ in the headline seems inappropriate to me. Juries don't clear defendants.
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    Re: Ex-Gitmo Detainee Ahmed Ghailani Cleared of All but One Charge in U.S. Embassy Bo

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    The word ‘cleared’ in the headline seems inappropriate to me. Juries don't clear defendants.
    Wasn't my headline. I was just trying to follow the Breaking News rules. Maybe you should complain to Fox although I have seen others using the same terminology.

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    Re: Ex-Gitmo Detainee Ahmed Ghailani Cleared of All but One Charge in U.S. Embassy Bo

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This guy could have been sent to the electric chair and people here would still be complaining because they're not lynching him first.
    my only complaint would be if it were done with great fanfare, publicly, feeding the celebrity function of martyrdom.

    have him shot out back one day, and thrown in a random hole in the dirt; no one ever to know. that is how you handle these people.

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    Re: Ex-Gitmo Detainee Ahmed Ghailani Cleared of All but One Charge in U.S. Embassy Bo

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Hopefully some of the general prison population will administer some prison yard justice.

    Normally I'd be apposed to vengeance but when you murder over 200 people I make an exception.
    bingo. my thoughts on this is that i am in favor of rule of law

    .... but terrorists remove themselves from the protection of such system.s

    Those of you who seem to rejoice in this verdict need to decide if you are going to be Americans or not and so far you're not in my book.
    when you are cheering for the enemy.......


    yeah.....

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