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    Re: Man jailed for beating up his childhood rapist

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i admire both of you, even tho you dealt with being assaulted in totally different ways

    let's take this back to being a thread about the ****ing priest who got his ass beat years later for the assault he perpetrated on his young victim
    I would like to note that I was accused of "insulting" someone because I said that therapy would've benefited them. And the insult hurled back at me was that I was the same thing as a pedophile.

    I think those are two very different "insults".

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    Re: Man jailed for beating up his childhood rapist

    What the priest did, assuming that he did it, was deplorable. The many who assaulted him, his anger was absolutely justified. Without question. His behavior was illegal. Without question. I don't think that either of the things that I just said are disputable in any way.

    Though I understand the man's reason for the assault, if on the jury, I would vote guilty. The reason does not justify the act.
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    Re: Man jailed for beating up his childhood rapist

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    On the opposite side of the coin, the beating can represent closure for the victim allowing him to heal emotionally. If that healing occurs, he may be able to get out of jail in a couple of years and rebuild a better life.
    The are FAR more effective ways to deal with this situation, psychologically.
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    Re: Man jailed for beating up his childhood rapist

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    The are FAR more effective ways to deal with this situation, psychologically.
    Actually, I'm going to partly disagree about saying there was definitely a far more effective way of dealing with this situation psychologically. I'm not sure of all of the reasearch on the subject, but it's possible that administering a beating could be the most effective way of dealing with it from a psychological standpoint for a certain individual (of course, we don't know if it would be for this specific individual, but it's reasonable to assume that for at least some individuals, revenge is the most effective from of closure). I'm defining "effective" as providing the "maximum healing benefits" in this context.

    That being said, I would agree that there are far better ways to deal with this situation, psychologically, when one considers maximum healing benefit AND a lack of negative consequences as the determination of "better".

    However, if one defines "effective" as providing "maximum healing benefit with minimal detriment to the individual", then I would agree with you.
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    Re: Man jailed for beating up his childhood rapist

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    What the priest did, assuming that he did it, was deplorable. The many who assaulted him, his anger was absolutely justified. Without question. His behavior was illegal. Without question. I don't think that either of the things that I just said are disputable in any way.

    Though I understand the man's reason for the assault, if on the jury, I would vote guilty. The reason does not justify the act.
    Then, you would have stood in the way of the justice that the priest had coming and denied this man the justice that he waited so long for.

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    So there is absolutely no evidence this woman, whom you called a slut, did this but you are ready to take someone's word as evidence. Guess you don't think witch hunts have to end when it's going after the certain people.

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    Re: Man jailed for beating up his childhood rapist

    I've always found a deserved good beatdown quite cathardic actually.
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    Re: Man jailed for beating up his childhood rapist

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Then, you would have stood in the way of the justice that the priest had coming and denied this man the justice that he waited so long for.

    Justice isn't always about the person that is on trial.
    no, he would have voted to find the fellow guilty, but fortunately, he would have been in front of a jury of peers. i doubt that most people on the street, those who would be serving on the jury, would convict this fellow for assualting the priest who criminally assaulted him while a kid
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    Re: Man jailed for beating up his childhood rapist

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    no, he would have voted to find the fellow guilty, but fortunately, he would have been in front of a jury of peers. i doubt that most people on the street, those who would be serving on the jury, would convict this fellow for assualting the priest who criminally assaulted him while a kid
    There is also the fact that the man is actually guilty of assualt.

    What becomes an issue at that point is what the purpose of the judicial system is.

    I would probably go with a verdict of Guilty as well, because I don't feel that emotional reasoning should be used in the determination of guilt. Teh question posed to teh jury is "Did this person violate the law with their actions".

    In this case, it's pretty clear that this man did violate the law. He is guilty of the crime (assuming that the description of the case as presented is indeed accurate).

    The fact that we can empathize with his actions doesn't negate the fact that his actions were unlawful.

    Then the issue ends up being about sentencing. What is the purpose of a sentence? Are they preventative (as in attemting to modify and/or prevent a behavior's reoccurance) or punative (as in punishing someone for doing "wrong")?

    If the former, we can weigh the odds of this behavior occuring again, and what, if any, sentence is likley to prevent recidivism. We would also need to look at the social impact. Would a lack of sentenceing lead to more occurances of this type form other people in similar situations?

    If the point of sentencign is to punish a person for their wrongdoing, then one needs to consider how "wrong" they feel the behavior was. In this case, many peopel agree whtta it wasn't all that wrong, and thus one could assume the sentence would be light.

    But as to guilt, I don't think that the circumstances can be classified as mitigating circumstances. He made a conscious effort to seek out the man and beat him. Teh fact that we understand why he did so doesn't change that.
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    Re: Man jailed for beating up his childhood rapist

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    There is also the fact that the man is actually guilty of assualt.

    What becomes an issue at that point is what the purpose of the judicial system is.

    I would probably go with a verdict of Guilty as well, because I don't feel that emotional reasoning should be used in the determination of guilt. Teh question posed to teh jury is "Did this person violate the law with their actions".

    In this case, it's pretty clear that this man did violate the law. He is guilty of the crime (assuming that the description of the case as presented is indeed accurate).

    The fact that we can empathize with his actions doesn't negate the fact that his actions were unlawful.

    Then the issue ends up being about sentencing. What is the purpose of a sentence? Are they preventative (as in attemting to modify and/or prevent a behavior's reoccurance) or punative (as in punishing someone for doing "wrong")?

    If the former, we can weigh the odds of this behavior occuring again, and what, if any, sentence is likley to prevent recidivism. We would also need to look at the social impact. Would a lack of sentenceing lead to more occurances of this type form other people in similar situations?

    If the point of sentencign is to punish a person for their wrongdoing, then one needs to consider how "wrong" they feel the behavior was. In this case, many peopel agree whtta it wasn't all that wrong, and thus one could assume the sentence would be light.

    But as to guilt, I don't think that the circumstances can be classified as mitigating circumstances. He made a conscious effort to seek out the man and beat him. Teh fact that we understand why he did so doesn't change that.
    The purpose of the justice system, is to serve justice. Had this guy been found guilty, then justice wouldn't have been served.
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    So there is absolutely no evidence this woman, whom you called a slut, did this but you are ready to take someone's word as evidence. Guess you don't think witch hunts have to end when it's going after the certain people.

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    Re: Man jailed for beating up his childhood rapist

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The purpose of the justice system, is to serve justice. Had this guy been found guilty, then justice wouldn't have been served.
    Define "Serving justice".
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