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Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

Pure "gerrymandering" kept this seat for Charlie.


j-mac

Perhaps, and such will help republicans in the futrue. But someone still ahd to look at his corruption and make the vote anyway. That still saddens me.
 
Perhaps, and such will help republicans in the futrue. But someone still ahd to look at his corruption and make the vote anyway. That still saddens me.


apparently the color of his skin was more important than the content of his character. that is what is truely sad.
 
apparently the color of his skin was more important than the content of his character. that is what is truely sad.

And we have a winner in the race to the race card contest. Congrats on being the first to play it!
 
apparently the color of his skin was more important than the content of his character. that is what is truely sad.

I don't know that that is true. It may be more party than skin color. It could be any number of variables, including the caliber of the other choice. I don't know and don't think anyone else does either. Or at least I've seen nothing to support any particular view.
 
And we have a winner in the race to the race card contest. Congrats on being the first to play it!

truth hurts sometimes. black candidate elected by a predominately black district and you expect people to think race isn't an issue. please

I guess you also think that race had nothing to do with Marion Berry being repeatedly elected as the Mayor of DC as well. :roll:
 
truth hurts sometimes. black candidate elected by a predominately black district and you expect people to think race isn't an issue. please

I guess you also think that race had nothing to do with Marion Berry being repeatedly elected as the Mayor of DC as well. :roll:

Oh wow, and white candidates tend to get elected in predominately white districts. That must be race too!
 
House Ethics Committee recommends censure.

The hearing postponed until after the mid-term elections may have had sometime to do with his re-election. Then again may not have made a difference.
 
Oh wow, and white candidates tend to get elected in predominately white districts. That must be race too!

black candidates get elected in white districts all the time (POTUS Obama ring a bell????) white candidates in black districts.....not so much.

4% of black voters voted for the white guy (McCain)
43% of white voters voted for the black guy (Obama)

96% of black voters voted for Obama and you expect people to think that none of that was due to race? really....

like it or not, black voters, in general, are more likely to vote for a black candidate over a white candidate regardless of policy or party. If stating this statistical truth makes me a racist....then so be it.
 
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black candidates get elected in white districts all the time (POTUS Obama ring a bell????) white candidates in black districts.....not so much.

4% of black voters voted for the white guy (McCain)
43% of white voters voted for the black guy (Obama)

96% of black voters voted for Obama and you expect people to think that none of that was due to race? really....

like it or not, black voters, in general, are more likely to vote for a black candidate over a white candidate regardless of policy or party. If stating this statistical truth makes me a racist....then so be it.

And black people tend to vote democratic in similar rates. Your crying racism is failing miserably.
 
apparently the color of his skin was more important than the content of his character. that is what is truely sad.

Oscar I agree with nearly everything you say man, but I don't think this is the case here. The repub running against Rangel was a black conservative minister. I think it has more to do with indefinite handouts and gerrymandering.

j-mac
 
And black people tend to vote democratic in similar rates. Your crying racism is failing miserably.


Slight point here, can you tell us what happens when a black man declares him or her self a conservative in a predominately black district? What names they are called?

I remember Michael Steele's visit to Howard University in Maryland when I lived there. They threw Oreo's at him.

j-mac
 
Slight point here, can you tell us what happens when a black man declares him or her self a conservative in a predominately black district? What names they are called?

I remember Michael Steele's visit to Howard University in Maryland when I lived there. They threw Oreo's at him.

j-mac

Kinda irrelevant to my point. Racism calls are used by people of every race and frequently any more, and it gets old. Playing the race card is annoying, no matter who does it or what their race is. The word should actually mean something, but any more it only means you disagree with me politically.
 
charlie's shameless

after referencing his war record and 50 years of congressional "service," rangel walked out of his hearing tuesday, claiming he hadn't been given enough time to prepare a defense and he couldn't afford his million dollar lawyers

today he pleads, "i don't know how much longer i have to live"

Tearful Charlie Rangel faces censure - John Bresnahan and Martin Kady II - POLITICO.com

charlie, personally, is an extremely gracious, kindly, grandfatherly and much loved 40 year veteran, almost everyone who knows him speaks very highly of his personal relations

but 17 years of tax avoidance, millions of dollars never disclosed, donations solicited under WAYS AND MEANS letterhead, what appears to be HUSH MONEY paid to committee members...

he should be prosecuted civilly

next---maxine waters, with REPUBLICANS chairing the committee

sorry
 
I asked this question in an other thread and didn't get an answer. Charlie was convicted on 11 counts of violating house rules by the house ethics committee. Question: Do any of the charges he was convicted of violate the law? And if so can he be tried in a court of law?

Should he face a civil trial? Personally I kinda like the guy and I would suggest he retire at this point.
 
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Oh wow, and white candidates tend to get elected in predominately white districts. That must be race too!

If race isn't an issue, why did the Voting Rights Act establish majority minority districts?
 
And black people tend to vote democratic in similar rates. Your crying racism is failing miserably.

Oscar didn't say anything about, "racism".
 
Slight point here, can you tell us what happens when a black man declares him or her self a conservative in a predominately black district? What names they are called?

I remember Michael Steele's visit to Howard University in Maryland when I lived there. They threw Oreo's at him.

j-mac

Is that universial, or Steele in particular? It makes a difference.
 
Is that universial, or Steele in particular? It makes a difference.

from my limited experience
the sell out opinion is quite widespread
the tossing of oreos at steele less so ... but indicative of the opinion of many within the black community (maybe not the majority, but certainly a widely held view)
 
That is correct, he is no longer the Chair of Ways and Means and has not been for awhile. Not sure if he resigned or was tossed, but he has not been the chair for a few months.

I enjoy watching people who will take every opportunity to make something nonpartisan into something partisan. Corruption is not a party thing, both parties have corrupt people, and it is not a reflection on either party, no matter how much some people will try and make it such.

Think about that. Rangel was chair of the committee that has the sole responsibility to oversee and investigate exactly the kind of actions he committed.

Unbelievable that he was in that chair in the first place. Probably got it with blackmail.
 
Is that universial, or Steele in particular? It makes a difference.

I have a black friend in my neighorhood who told me the reason they moved was that his kids were being called sell-outs - trying to be "white" - for making good grades at the predominantly black school they attended. He also said this is a big and growing problem in lots of urban schools.
 
I really do not know what to say to that post from Erod.
 
I have a black friend in my neighorhood who told me the reason they moved was that his kids were being called sell-outs - trying to be "white" - for making good grades at the predominantly black school they attended. He also said this is a big and growing problem in lots of urban schools.

I can give isolated stories that would be liek that, but I think we need something more exgtnsive, something that looks at the numbers.
 
I have a black friend in my neighorhood who told me the reason they moved was that his kids were being called sell-outs - trying to be "white" - for making good grades at the predominantly black school they attended. He also said this is a big and growing problem in lots of urban schools.

yes, that is not an unusual view in poor black communities where an education has not been held up to the students as something to be valued and to work toward
that is not dissimilar from the perception in poor white communities where an education is not held up to be the key to future opportunity but is instead an indicator that one is a geek
the point is, that education is not viewed positively is not something limited to the black community, hispanic community, American Indian community or white community. to a much lesser degree will it be found within the asian and jewish cultures
 
I really do not know what to say to that post from Erod.

Of course you don't. Because you're too Liberal and PC to admit that the biggest problem within the black community, are alot of the people, within the black community.
 
Of course you don't. Because you're too Liberal and PC to admit that the biggest problem within the black community, are alot of the people, within the black community.

Same can be said of whites in poor white communities. People in general are their worse enemies. Just look at those who constantly vote against their interests. ;)
 
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