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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And black people tend to vote democratic in similar rates. Your crying racism is failing miserably.
    Oscar didn't say anything about, "racism".
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Slight point here, can you tell us what happens when a black man declares him or her self a conservative in a predominately black district? What names they are called?

    I remember Michael Steele's visit to Howard University in Maryland when I lived there. They threw Oreo's at him.

    j-mac
    Is that universial, or Steele in particular? It makes a difference.

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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Is that universial, or Steele in particular? It makes a difference.
    from my limited experience
    the sell out opinion is quite widespread
    the tossing of oreos at steele less so ... but indicative of the opinion of many within the black community (maybe not the majority, but certainly a widely held view)
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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is correct, he is no longer the Chair of Ways and Means and has not been for awhile. Not sure if he resigned or was tossed, but he has not been the chair for a few months.

    I enjoy watching people who will take every opportunity to make something nonpartisan into something partisan. Corruption is not a party thing, both parties have corrupt people, and it is not a reflection on either party, no matter how much some people will try and make it such.
    Think about that. Rangel was chair of the committee that has the sole responsibility to oversee and investigate exactly the kind of actions he committed.

    Unbelievable that he was in that chair in the first place. Probably got it with blackmail.

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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Is that universial, or Steele in particular? It makes a difference.
    I have a black friend in my neighorhood who told me the reason they moved was that his kids were being called sell-outs - trying to be "white" - for making good grades at the predominantly black school they attended. He also said this is a big and growing problem in lots of urban schools.

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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

    I really do not know what to say to that post from Erod.
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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I have a black friend in my neighorhood who told me the reason they moved was that his kids were being called sell-outs - trying to be "white" - for making good grades at the predominantly black school they attended. He also said this is a big and growing problem in lots of urban schools.
    I can give isolated stories that would be liek that, but I think we need something more exgtnsive, something that looks at the numbers.

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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I have a black friend in my neighorhood who told me the reason they moved was that his kids were being called sell-outs - trying to be "white" - for making good grades at the predominantly black school they attended. He also said this is a big and growing problem in lots of urban schools.
    yes, that is not an unusual view in poor black communities where an education has not been held up to the students as something to be valued and to work toward
    that is not dissimilar from the perception in poor white communities where an education is not held up to be the key to future opportunity but is instead an indicator that one is a geek
    the point is, that education is not viewed positively is not something limited to the black community, hispanic community, American Indian community or white community. to a much lesser degree will it be found within the asian and jewish cultures
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I really do not know what to say to that post from Erod.
    Of course you don't. Because you're too Liberal and PC to admit that the biggest problem within the black community, are alot of the people, within the black community.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Of course you don't. Because you're too Liberal and PC to admit that the biggest problem within the black community, are alot of the people, within the black community.
    Same can be said of whites in poor white communities. People in general are their worse enemies. Just look at those who constantly vote against their interests.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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