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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I agree and it was a Nancy Pelosi's House that did this to Rangel. Those damn liberals.
    I understand there were 4 Democrats and 4 Republicans onthe panel.

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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

    Will he be re-elected, a la mayor Marion Berry?

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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    What bothers me is that he was reelected. The poeple should have ahndled this but didn't. Our problem with the voters is not a partisan thing. Both sides have made some fairly poor choices over the years.
    I respect the hell out of both you and Redress for putting "right and wrong" ahead of politics, so believe me when I say, that I'm not trying to start a pissing war with what I'm about to say.

    When it comes to corrupt politicians, there is no party preference. While neither side of the isle can claim the high road on the issue of political corruption, over the years I have noticed how each side deals with it seems to be quite different. Maybe my own partisanship has clouded my memory, but it sure seems to me that republicans nearly always (both voters and politicians) take swift and decisive action to purge corrupt people from their ranks, even when the corruption is only alleged, or the politicians themselves resign. Democrats on the other hand, seem more interested playing politics when one of their own is involved in corruption. They either go into damage control mode and defend their corrupt people, or the simply sweep it under the rug and pretend it never happened. They almost never resign.

    Just on memory alone, I can come up with several examples in recent to back up my belief. On the republican side, you have Mark Foley, Who was denounced by his colleagues for texting a 17 year old boy and forced to resign.

    Trent Lott, who resigned as house speaker over bogus allegations of racism.

    Tom Delay, who resigned as majority leader and opted not to run for reelection over criminal charges that he was found not guilty of committing.

    Larry Craig, who was accused but not convicted of solicitation, (which I hardly consider "corruption") was repudiated by republicans and pressured to resign. He rescinded his resignation however, and finished out his term and didn't run for reelection.

    On the democrat side, racist and former KKK grand wizard Robert Byrd, who said the "N" word on Fox News in 2001, was hailed by democrats and served for 41 years till his death.

    Jack Murtha, the king of pork who was caught on tape by the FBI in a bribe scandal in the 70's (turned states evidence for immunity), who was under investigation when he died, was reelected year after year.

    Chris Dodd, who has been in the thick of political corruption for years, including the Countywide scandal, has never been asked to resign and probably would have run again if his poll numbers weren't so bad.

    Barney Frank, who's boyfriend ran a brothel out of his apartment and refused to reform Fanny and Freddie, has never been asked to step down, and is reelected year after year.

    William Jefferson, who was caught by the FBI in a sting with $90,000.00 in bribe money in his freezer, not only wasn't asked to resign, but won reelection and was offered a leadership position by Nancy Pelosi even with the criminal charges pending.

    Marion Barry, caught on film smoking crack while mayor of D.C, not only didn't resign, he ended up serving time in the federal pen, then after his release was elected mayor of DC again. He is still on the DC city council to this day.


    See what I mean?

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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

    I'll respect a non-pissing war pact. But I do think that is more your memory and view. Different things often call for different reactions. As do different time periods. And when a person retires, we seldom say you suck. We're ususally gracious. I think you have a few of those wrong up there. But I don't care enough to check them all out. And I only speak for myself, always. Corruption is corruption, and each candidate has to answer to his electorate and his party. Democrats in general have less problem with homosexuality and fooling around in general, . . . I think (as I could be wrong). And sometimes it isn't what was done, but the hypocracy of the person doing doing it. An anti-homosexual republican trying to illicit sex with men is a much bigger story than a gay activist democrat doing the same thing.

    But, the point is wrong is wrong, and even with some difference as to where the line is, I think most of us agree that corruption is a bad thing and we should not have it or support it regradless of party.

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    Rangel is a chair of the committee which writes tax law. Then he is convicted of violations having to do with the very law he played a major role in writing. He should resign. If he fails to do that, he should be expelled. His voters re-elected him and he has that to ease his soul in the last years ahead of him. But he should be gone and be gone before the new congress starts in January.
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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Rangel is a chair of the committee which writes tax law. Then he is convicted of violations having to do with the very law he played a major role in writing. He should resign. If he fails to do that, he should be expelled. His voters re-elected him and he has that to ease his soul in the last years ahead of him. But he should be gone and be gone before the new congress starts in January.
    i thought he gave up that chair.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Rangel is a chair of the committee which writes tax law. Then he is convicted of violations having to do with the very law he played a major role in writing. He should resign. If he fails to do that, he should be expelled. His voters re-elected him and he has that to ease his soul in the last years ahead of him. But he should be gone and be gone before the new congress starts in January.
    The only word is pathetic.

    He is out today trying to paint himself as a victim of a witch hunt.

    I honestly beleive he thinks what he did was OK, he said attorneys told him there was no corruption.

    A blind man could see he was violating the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i thought he gave up that chair.
    You could be right. I remember earlier this year he took a "leave of absence" from the chairman position.
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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

    He is a POS. but, because he is a democrat he, like many before him will skate. anyone remember William "dollar bill" Jefferson?

    if they try to fry his ass, there will be some retard that will cry racism.
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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i thought he gave up that chair.
    That is correct, he is no longer the Chair of Ways and Means and has not been for awhile. Not sure if he resigned or was tossed, but he has not been the chair for a few months.

    I enjoy watching people who will take every opportunity to make something nonpartisan into something partisan. Corruption is not a party thing, both parties have corrupt people, and it is not a reflection on either party, no matter how much some people will try and make it such.
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