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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

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    It's just as sad that so many white youth see being smart as something you don't really want to be. TYhe anti-intellectual movement, which to often is anti education, is all too prevelent among the less wealthy.
    true, but it is much much worse among black youth. I taught for 9 years at an inner city school and it was very disheartening. white kids get called "nerd", black kids get called race traitor.
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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    true, but it is much much worse among black youth. I taught for 9 years at an inner city school and it was very disheartening. white kids get called "nerd", black kids get called race traitor.
    If it is worse, something I'm not certain of, it may be because more are poor.

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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

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    Here I am, "serving my white masters", again.

    I prefer, "race traitor", too, BTW.
    LOL.

    I feel for you. You certainly aren't alone by any means, but your voice isn't heard like it should be. Instead, you are marginalized and patronized. It's disgusting.

    And damned if I know where to begin to fix it. My buddy I mentioned earlier gets so upset over it, I can see his jaw clench when he talks about what his kids went through. He calls it a "no man's land" kind of feeling.

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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It's just as sad that so many white youth see being smart as something you don't really want to be. TYhe anti-intellectual movement, which to often is anti education, is all too prevelent among the less wealthy.
    It's not as much about being poor as it is about truly pathetic parenting. If kids are not held to any standards within the home, then they're going to write their own "code" at school. The first few years of school, performance has to be dictated by parents, until it becomes rooted within the kid and personal pride and motivation kick in. That doesn't happen with a high percentage of parents, particularly in the black community.

    Again, 4 out of 5 black children born do not have a father listed on the birth certificate. That's where the problem originates.

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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

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    Again, 4 out of 5 black children born do not have a father listed on the birth certificate. That's where the problem originates.
    don't know about the 4/5 # but I adopted two young black boys and on both of their original birth certs in the line where the name of the father goes it has "mother refused to respond".

    my oldest, 15, his mother accused 6 different men of being his father...DNA ruled out all 6. we have no idea who his baby daddy is.
    my youngest, 12, the guy that DNA said was baby daddy still denies being the father, he is serving a life sentence in prison.

    the day after the adoptions were complete we applied for new birth certs for both of them and MY name is in the father blank.
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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    don't know about the 4/5 # but I adopted two young black boys and on both of their original birth certs in the line where the name of the father goes it has "mother refused to respond".

    my oldest, 15, his mother accused 6 different men of being his father...DNA ruled out all 6. we have no idea who his baby daddy is.
    my youngest, 12, the guy that DNA said was baby daddy still denies being the father, he is serving a life sentence in prison.

    the day after the adoptions were complete we applied for new birth certs for both of them and MY name is in the father blank.
    You're a better man than me. I've got three kids, and my wife and I have discussed it, but we never took on a challenge like that.

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    Re: Rangel guilty: House ethics panel rules misconduct

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    It's not as much about being poor as it is about truly pathetic parenting. If kids are not held to any standards within the home, then they're going to write their own "code" at school. The first few years of school, performance has to be dictated by parents, until it becomes rooted within the kid and personal pride and motivation kick in. That doesn't happen with a high percentage of parents, particularly in the black community.

    Again, 4 out of 5 black children born do not have a father listed on the birth certificate. That's where the problem originates.
    I part agree and part disagree. Many single parent families do instill very good morals and work ethic. And it isn't as mcuh about race as it is about poverty, and the problems associated with poverty. It is not that poorer folks lack these things in every instance, but like with all things, the more obstacles there are, the more likely things will go wrong.

    But, yes, parenting plays a major role. And while you can find poor parents and great parents at every level, and within every race, the likelihood that there will be more problems in a poorer environment are simply greater.

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