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Who told you our dirty secret? Somalis like to pretend we had nothing at all to do with slave trade .... nothing :ninja:

Somalia has the light blue colour in honour of the United Nations. The star of Somalia has 5 points, each star representing a branch of the Somalis: French Djibouti, Somalis of Ethiopia that reside in land stolen from us by the ****ing Ethiopians :/. British Somaliland, Italian Somalia and the Somalis of North Kenya

Just a cruel coincidence.

I like how you cry about the wrongs done to the Somalis. So, what will Somalia eventually do, to make reperations to the Bantus?
 
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I like how you cry about the wrongs done to the Somalis. So, what will Somalia eventually do, to make reperations to the Bantus?

There are many wrongs that have been done to Somalia starting with the colonials giving away large percentages of our land, dumping **** in our oceans, destroying our clan structure in the South, US and Russia using Somalia and flooding it with weapons, fishing in our seas and we aren't even scratching the surface. But this is not typical to Somalia. Africa as a continent has been raped by the rest of the world for a long time :shrug:

What wrongs have we Somalis done to the Bantus? It was the Arabs who brought them over during the slave trade. We most certainly did not enslave them for decades, whip them, force them to breed, gave them no rights whatsoever and even when forced to recognise Blacks rights, segregation attempts occurred or treat them as different to others. Not naming any names .... *cough* US
 
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Grant you have said it a a lot of the time along with Tex-master, and Gardner. Seriously you don't see that saying no Muslims will condemn this. is painting them as people who support this? And calling the people who defend the Muslims apolitical.

You're powers of comprehension are not all that keen, RyrineaHaruno, so it's best you use quotes whenever you post, This is because a) you cannot remember what was posted or b) you can't interpret them correctly. If you cannot understand what was written, or how to use the quote system, you should not don't expect any replies.
 
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There are many wrongs that have been done to Somalia starting with the colonials giving away large percentages of our land, dumping **** in our oceans, destroying our clan structure in the South, US and Russia using Somalia and flooding it with weapons, fishing in our seas and we aren't even scratching the surface. But this is not typical to Somalia. Africa as a continent has been raped by the rest of the world for a long time :shrug:

What wrongs have we Somalis done to the Bantus? It was the Arabs who brought them over during the slave trade. We most certainly did not enslave them for decades, whip them, force them to breed, gave them no rights whatsoever and even when forced to recognise Blacks rights, segregation attempts occurred or treat them as different to others. Not naming any names .... *cough* US

Seems to me that Somalia is like so many other third countries, with too much past and too little future.
 
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I was replying to Americans post, which is basically if I come in and say, that you shouldn't paint all muslims with the same Brush, I'm accused of "Supporting Sharia Law and perhaps later on terrorism".

I think what has happened here is barbaric.

But if you're gonna turn this thread into another Muslim bashing episode, I want no part in it.

This isn't some radical Islamic sect we are talking about, this is a court in the world's second largest Islamic country. This kind of decision and these kinds of actions are becoming incresingly common and accepted by larger and larger groups of Muslims worldwide.
 
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Seems to me that Somalia is like so many other third countries, with too much past and too little future.

Somalia has a future. If you saw Somalia, you'd see its potential. Somalia in a coma is amazing to observe imo.
The private sector of Somalia has boomed. Somalia telecommunications. Already a large percentage of the country has internet compared to other African countries in the continent who have waiting lists of years for landline to be installed, took just a few days in Somalia. One of the benefits I suppose of no regulation, taxes or Government to answer to :shrug:

At the way I talk about Somalia. I may as well one day make a thread just for it :lol:
 
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This isn't some radical Islamic sect we are talking about, this is a court in the world's second largest Islamic country. This kind of decision and these kinds of actions are becoming incresingly common and accepted by larger and larger groups of Muslims worldwide.

I agree this is a problem. The law should be revoked but in many Muslim countries there are restrictions to free speech anyway and in those where Non Muslims are a minority, there are even more laws.
 
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I agree this is a problem. The law should be revoked but in many Muslim countries there are restrictions to free speech anyway and in those where Non Muslims are a minority, there are even more laws.


While it is largely up to Muslims to carry out these reforms, what role can non Muslims play in trying to hurry the process along?

Right now I see the fundamentalists winning, and of course that increases the danger to everyone, Muslim and non Muslim alike.
 
This proves why theocracies of any kind don't work.
 
This proves why theocracies of any kind don't work.

Quite right, but how do you convince others of that? That's the problem.

Unfortunately mankind hasn't nearly reached the top of the evolutionary ladder and with nuclear weapons soon to be in the hands of radical religious fanatics, we may never get there.
 
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:damn

Who told you our dirty secret? Somalis like to pretend we had nothing at all to do with slave trade .... nothing :ninja:

Somalia has the light blue colour in honour of the United Nations. The star of Somalia has 5 points, each star representing a branch of the Somalis: French Djibouti, Somalis of Ethiopia that reside in land stolen from us by the ****ing Ethiopians :/. British Somaliland, Italian Somalia and the Somalis of North Kenya

Just a cruel coincidence.

Gee, Somalia can't even handle its own country and now you want Djibouti (Afars and Issas), Ogaden in Ethiopia and northern Kenya??? I actually prefer the idea of recognizing Somaliland as independent as they at least have a functioning government...
 
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Gee, Somalia can't even handle its own country and now you want Djibouti (Afars and Issas), Ogaden in Ethiopia and northern Kenya??? I actually prefer the idea of recognizing Somaliland as independent as they at least have a functioning government...
:lamo

Of course not. That would ofc be a dream of all Somalis but it is no longer possible.
Somalis in Djibouti and Kenya have a home with their States, we wouldn't take that away and risk annexing.

But I do want our land stolen from us by the Ethiopians. I hope Somalia settles for no more than the return of Ogaden. Ethiopia fears a strong Somalia and it should. The last time we had a war, we almost got back our land. It's only a matter of time, the second Somalia has peace. All eyes will be looking North to our neighbour ;)
 
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I agree this is a problem. The law should be revoked but in many Muslim countries there are restrictions to free speech anyway and in those where Non Muslims are a minority, there are even more laws.

But you are one of the few I see out there condeming it... I have travelled extensively in several Muslim countries, especially Indonesia. Indonesia was once one of the most moderate Islamic countries out there, but radicals are even gaining there as well...
 
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:lamo

Of course not. That would ofc be a dream of all Somalis but it is no longer possible.
Somalis in Djibouti and Kenya have a home with their States, we wouldn't take that away and risk annexing.

But I do want our land stolen from us by the Ethiopians. I hope Somalia settles for no more than the return of Ogaden. Ethiopia fears a strong Somalia and it should. The last time we had a war, we almost got back our land. It's only a matter of time, the second Somalia has peace. All eyes will be looking North to our neighbour ;)

When and how did the Ethiopians steal the land from the Somalis... Ethiopia as a state has existed for far longer and its historical domains are much greater than they are now. I am sure they would like Eritrea back too, land that once belonged to the predecessor state of Ethiopia known as Axum (Aksum) but was taken by Muslims in the 8th century...
 
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When and how did the Ethiopians steal the land from the Somalis... Ethiopia as a state has existed for far longer and its historical domains are much greater than they are now. I am sure they would like Eritrea back too, land that once belonged to the predecessor state of Ethiopia known as Axum (Aksum) but was taken by Muslims in the 8th century...

Ogaden used to be part of Greater Somalia. It is inhabited by Somali Muslims and always has been.
Ethiopia with a back alley deal with the British was given Ogaden and have refused to give it back to us, now claiming it is their land. Since then Somalis have been fighting Ethiopian troops for a return to Somali rule including two wars between Somalia and Ethiopia and the rebels have bombed Ethiopia numerous times and vice versa.
Ethiopia is not allowing Somalis in Ogaden a referendum on where they choose to go, not to mention the countless horrors Ethiopian soldiers have done in Ogaden.

They can take Eritrea. Shame those in Eritrea doesn't like them. Ethiopia is now landlocked and surrounded by Muslim countries. Hehe.

On the issue of Somaliland, I am no longer as sure as I used to be that Somaliland's Independence will be in the best interest.
 
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Ogaden used to be part of Greater Somalia. It is inhabited by Somali Muslims and always has been.
Ethiopia with a back alley deal with the British was given Ogaden and have refused to give it back to us, now claiming it is their land. Since then Somalis have been fighting Ethiopian troops for a return to Somali rule including two wars between Somalia and Ethiopia and the rebels have bombed Ethiopia numerous times and vice versa.
Ethiopia is not allowing Somalis in Ogaden a referendum on where they choose to go, not to mention the countless horrors Ethiopian soldiers have done in Ogaden.

They can take Eritrea. Shame those in Eritrea doesn't like them. Ethiopia is now landlocked and surrounded by Muslim countries. Hehe.

On the issue of Somaliland, I am no longer as sure as I used to be that Somaliland's Independence will be in the best interest.

Yeah, you love the fact that Islam ruthlessly attacked Axum and made what WAS a largely peaceful, affluent, cultural kingdom landlocked and cut off from its international markets. You love the fact that though they actually helped Muhammed's family, Muslims still attacked Adulis, its most important city, and all but destroyed it... yeah, nice job...

Always populated by Muslim Somalis? Christians were there long before Muslims were...
 
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Yeah, you love the fact that Islam ruthlessly attacked Axum and made what WAS a largely peaceful, affluent, cultural kingdom landlocked and cut off from its international markets. You love the fact that though they actually helped Muhammed's family, Muslims still attacked Adulis, its most important city, and all but destroyed it... yeah, nice job...

Always populated by Muslim Somalis? Christians were there long before Muslims were...

Somalis have always populated HOA and those regions.
Islam came to the region after Christianity sure, but Somalis were never once Christian. Never, never heard of a Non Muslim Somali.

Doesn't matter, Somalis had no role in it :shrug:
I just want Ogaden back. It can take Eritrea if it persuades them being part of Ethiopia is better than being off alone but I doubt it will succeed.
 
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:lamo

Of course not. That would ofc be a dream of all Somalis but it is no longer possible.
Somalis in Djibouti and Kenya have a home with their States, we wouldn't take that away and risk annexing.

But I do want our land stolen from us by the Ethiopians. I hope Somalia settles for no more than the return of Ogaden. Ethiopia fears a strong Somalia and it should. The last time we had a war, we almost got back our land. It's only a matter of time, the second Somalia has peace. All eyes will be looking North to our neighbour ;)

Great! More wars in that very troubled area of the world.

They must be kept isolated.
 
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Great! More wars in that very troubled area of the world.

They must be kept isolated.

All Ethiopia has to do is have a referendum. That is it to divert any wars in future or present.
 
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Laila
Islam came to the region after Christianity sure, but Somalis were never once Christian. Never.

Too bad for them.

Perhaps had they been Christian they might have become a first world country with wide-spread human rights, rather than an international basket case.
 
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Laila

Too bad for them.

Perhaps had they been Christian they might have become a first world country with wide-spread human rights, rather than an international basket case.

Yeah right.

Christianity is as toxic to Africa as Islam. Both religions were brought to Africans through colonialism, war, force and slavery. Not choice.
If both religions were never in Africa. I am certain Africa would be better off
 
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There are many wrongs that have been done to Somalia starting with the colonials giving away large percentages of our land, dumping **** in our oceans, destroying our clan structure in the South, US and Russia using Somalia and flooding it with weapons, fishing in our seas and we aren't even scratching the surface. But this is not typical to Somalia. Africa as a continent has been raped by the rest of the world for a long time :shrug:

What wrongs have we Somalis done to the Bantus? It was the Arabs who brought them over during the slave trade. We most certainly did not enslave them for decades, whip them, force them to breed, gave them no rights whatsoever and even when forced to recognise Blacks rights, segregation attempts occurred or treat them as different to others. Not naming any names .... *cough* US

The hell ya'll didn't!

Not to mention, the treatment they saw at the hands of the Somali militiamen, during the civil war of the 90's.

I thought all this time that you were a Brit. But now, I find out that you're a Somali Muslim and you want to condemn the United States for, whatever? What hypocrisy!
 
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The hell ya'll didn't!

Not to mention, the treatment they saw at the hands of the Somali militiamen, during the civil war of the 90's.

I thought all this time that you were a Brit. But now, I find out that you're a Somali Muslim and you want to condemn the United States for, whatever? What hypocrisy!

I am a Brit LOL

No really, we didn't. Majority of Somalis did not own slaves nor was there any business nor was there any Government policy in favour or against it and it was also isolated in small pockets of South Somalia. I am from North, there is no Bantus or former slave trade history here :shrug:
 
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Yeah right.

Christianity is as toxic to Africa as Islam. Both religions were brought to Africans through colonialism, war, force and slavery. Not choice.
If both religions were never in Africa. I am certain Africa would be better off
This isn't true. Christianity is doing good in Africa. I have missionary friends over there right now who are telling me incredible stories. Violence is toxic to Africa.
 
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This isn't true. Christianity is doing good in Africa. I have missionary friends over there right now who are telling me incredible stories. Violence is toxic to Africa.

Why is AIDs higher in Christian dominated regions than Muslims? It couldn't be because it is Catholic Christian policy to spread that condoms should not be used. Sentencing basically Africans to death

My ancestors were not Muslim by choice, it was a religion that brought to us by the Arabs. Majority of Africa was not Christian by choice. It was something brought by the colonial powers spreading their views and in the process destroying Africa's owns beliefs whilst of course indulging in slavery on the side.

I honestly think Africa would have been better off if none of the religions were brought over
 
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