"He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
Well this is the real problem with theocracy. It's never a fair system in which the rights of the individual are considered. This is why secular government is the best way to go.
You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo
Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
Sophistry such as this is extremely predictable, there are countless examples of such in other threads, and the nature of the apologia is such that people are defending practices that they would not defend if such practices arose from "our" group rather than "their group". It may not be support for Sharia outright, but it is certainly apologia that acts to create false equivalencies.
"you're better off on Stormfront discussing how evil brown men are taking innocent white flowers." Infinite Chaos
Why is this in the breaking news section? When its not breaking news, since it more to do with Religion than anything. And I agree with Jet, since I DEFEND Muslims like Laila who don't act like the ones in the OP and somehow I get called a terrorist supporter it just ridiculous.
However, I don't support what the people in the OP did in fact they are the people I fight against, since I know they twist Islam in to a their own perversion of Islam. I also love the fact that the people in the OP seem, and also some posters on this bored seem to forget this little line of the Quran.
"Those who believe (in the Quran), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians...and (all) who believe in God and the last day and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve." The Qur'an, 2:62And also this little quotation from the QuranAnd also this line from the Hadith "If anyone harms (others), God will harm him, and if anyone shows hostility to others, God will show hostility to him."
"O mankind! We created you from a male and a female and made you into nations and tribes that you may know and honor each other (not that you should despise one another). Indeed the most honorable of you in the sight of God is the most righteous." Chapter 49, Verse 13"God does not forbid you to be kind and equitable to those who have neither fought against your faith nor driven you out of your homes. In fact God loves the equitable." Chapter 60, Verse 8
"And what will explain to you what the steep path is? It is the freeing of a (slave) from bondage; or the giving of food in a day of famine to an orphan relative, or to a needy in distress. Then will he be of those who believe, enjoin fortitude and encourage kindness and compassion." Chapter 90, Verses 12-17
Note: these are the English translations of the verse of the Qur'an. However Laila can correct me on some of the verses, if I am wrong."Show forgiveness, speak for justice and avoid the ignorant." Chapter 7, Verse 199
And as Islam is an ideology, what's wrong with being critical? All ideologies and beliefs should stand up to public scrutiny. There is nothing special whatsoever that would exclude Islam.
Islam and many of its adherents are a serious problem in the world and this problem should be discussed openly. Calling it "bashing" implies that we should have sympathy for Muslims, and that should never be the case. They are not a special case and never have been. They should be held to the same standards as everyone else.