ahh so without evidence you accuse the victims of lying. Classy bro.
Nice hypocrisy. :thumbs:
Such partisan BS. You should just be ignored.
There's plenty of evidence. I've even posted videos myself, and you can actually read up on what the procedures are, and you can look up the definition of fondling and feeling up, none of which have been shown ot have actually happened. What surprises me (not really) is that you haven't asked for evidence from those who claimed to be fondled and felt up.
Well, I guess when you can't answer, that's the best thing for you to do.
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Where is the TSA video's disputing said claims? nice hypocrisy boo. If this was Bush you would be all over it. :roll:
Look at post #456, 2nd sentence. He posted it before me. I know how liberals seem to operate; just one glaring example is this: "where are the anti-war liberals now that Obama's in office and sent 30,000 more troops?" Hrm, not hypocrisy???
Easy to say, but where's you're proof I would tret it differently,. Show Bush doing the same thing, not something different, that I treated differently.
As for the videos, there's a few on this thread. I posted one with a child. Others have been posted. You shoudl also look for the procedures,a nd the defintiions as I have said. That should be the first thing you do. It was certainly the first thing I did.
Can't, that forum you moderated, the d00d took all your guys money, shut the place down and took off. :shrug:
You posted a video released by the TSA? Really?
Read carefully what I wrote and look for yourself.
And I never called Bush wrong for anything similar to this. Wiretapping is not similar and I clearly explain why earlier.
Read carefully what I wrote and look for yourself.
And I never called Bush wrong for anything similar to this. Wiretapping is not similar and I clearly explain why earlier.
Wiretapping your line if you're talking to someone from overseas known to be terrorist, without you even knowing it, is far less intrusive than having a hand in your underwear for no reason at all. Your excuses are laughable.
So you are you lying, or are you not answering me because your not telling the truth? :ssst:
Was it a TSA released video showing the TSA's version of the events?
Please by all means, lets not be evasive here.
You are right, wiretapping foreign nationals suspected of terrorism is far far worse than TSA agents groping kids looking for bombs. :roll:
Hypocrisy at it's finest champ. :thumbs:
What is happening here is you are seeing American core values at work. Most of us are OUTRAGED at the unconstitutional actions of the TSA.
Only a handful of "true believers" are towing the party line.
No, it was a video made by a reporter, with them searching his daughter. Again, you could look that up. I asked that you reread so that maybe you would refrain from making silly comments.
And no one is groping, fondling, or feeling up. It is dishonest, hyperbolic exaggeration to say so.
And wiretapping citzens without proper cause or legal oversight is worse than doing a proper pat down before boarding a [plane, yes. Those things are different, and should be viewed differently.
It has nothing to do with party. It has to do with the nature of getting on a plane and the troubles we've had with people actually using planes as weapons. Reasonable precautions are not out of line. And while there might be some reason to object, we have to do so without hyperbolic exaggeration. I showed the one film because that reporter made a valid argument. What I object to is the silliness of calling this fondling, feeling up or groping when that is clearly not what is happening.
What is happening here is you are seeing American core values at work. Most of us are OUTRAGED at the unconstitutional actions of the TSA.
Only a handful of "true believers" are towing the party line.
What is happening here is you are seeing American core values at work. Most of us are OUTRAGED at the unconstitutional actions of the TSA.
That much is true, and I think that of even those here who have supported the TSA, only Boo remains.
These procedures will not last. Thank you, public outcry.
And wiretapping citzens without proper cause or legal oversight is worse than doing a proper pat down before boarding a plane.