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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I think this level of search without a warrant is unreasonable.
    That's wonderful. I don't. You think its unconstitutional. I think it is. Its in place and staying there until SCOTUS agrees with you though or the agency volunteerily changes it.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    But the ACLU had issues with the TSA BEFORE these searches, when the Bush administration was running it, and yet they were ignored or better yet blasted by Conservatives during that time.

    Yet...magically...when they're coming out against something this Administration is saying is okay and can be spun in a way to look bad for Obama, suddenly conservatives are going "see, see! The ACLU says its bad!"
    I don't remember what they said before.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I don't remember what they said before.
    Just a quick smattering

    2004 - ACLU: Airport frisks are invitation to sexual harassment

    Funny line in that one:

    Even those who pass successfully though metal detectors and appear unsuspicious may be subject to an intrusive pat-down in sensitive body areas, including breasts, genitals, and buttocks.

    The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) began allowing full-body frisks when it revamped its screening tests on Sept. 22 to ensure passenger safety. Since then, about a dozen complaints are filed each week regarding screening misconduct, many from women who feel they were groped.
    Lets continue on.

    How about in 2005 when the ACLU came out Against TSA Questioning Suspicious Behavior. Yes, I remember all the conservatives praising the glorious upstanding ACLU then.

    2006 ACLU sues government over 'no-fly' list.

    Oh, what about 2007, when that Bush guy was still in office. There were these things beginning to roll out and test new airline passenger screening machines called "millimeter-wave passenger imaging technology"....or as people keep calling it now "naked scanners". And boy the ACLU had a big problem with it then. Know who WASN'T having a gigantic huge fit about it talking for hours on end on their talk shows and flooding message boards? I'll give you a hint, it starts with a C.

    But now...oh we MUST listen to the ACLU, I mean, the ACLU is saying it so it MUST be serious.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    the aclu, like house homeland security, is cited by the serious as SIGNAL

    ie, indication of the lay of the land

    hello

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Well at least you waited till noon before you hit the sauce.
    Just coffee dude. Just coffee.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    the aclu, like house homeland security, is cited by the serious as SIGNAL

    ie, indication of the lay of the land

    hello
    So when they said the exact same thing in 2004:

    Even those who pass successfully though metal detectors and appear unsuspicious may be subject to an intrusive pat-down in sensitive body areas, including breasts, genitals, and buttocks.

    The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) began allowing full-body frisks when it revamped its screening tests on Sept. 22 to ensure passenger safety. Since then, about a dozen complaints are filed each week regarding screening misconduct, many from women who feel they were groped.
    Were you saying the ACLU was sending a SIGNAL to the seriouness of the problem then too?

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Were you saying the ACLU was sending a SIGNAL to the seriouness of the problem then too?
    unbelievable

    the aclu's stance is not cited as sign of the seriousness of the problem

    it's indicative of the political landscape

    hello

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    unbelievable

    the aclu's stance is not cited as sign of the seriousness of the problem

    it's indicative of the political landscape

    hello
    But their position has remained the same REGARDLESS of the political landscape. They thought it was groping and intrusive under Bush and they think it now under Obama. Where as it appears YOU are shifting based on the political landscape, seemingly suggesting its bad now but wasn't in 2004.

    Or was it horrible, unconstitutional, and unexcusable back then as well?

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Or was it horrible, unconstitutional, and unexcusable back then as well?
    ask ms lee

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    ask ms lee
    So your opinion is simply that of Ms Lee's? Why would I ask someone else for your opinion on it?

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