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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So although it is ineffective and is against the Constitution you are still for it. I'd never heard before that the Constitution had to be "balanced" but i suppose anything can happen in the political climate today.
    Simply because YOU believe it is ineffective and against the constitution doesn't make it unquestionable fact. Show me a SCOTUS case stating that the TSA's searches are unconstitutional then I'll agree with you.

    The terrorists are laughing while Americans are removing their shoes and any other suspicious clothing, having their intimated selves exposed to strangers, having those same strangers run their hands over their bodies, including little girls, and ignoring a significant part of the Constitution.
    Nice attempt to appeal to emotion with your language here, but you can try to paint all the horrible pictures you want to act like its the "norm", we shouldn't make policy based on whether or not terrorists are laughing. And again, show me where the SCOTUS has ruled TSA's actions are unconstitutional.

    While going out of their way to not offend Muslims this same government has no compunction about offending ordinary Americans, and will fine and jail them if they don't comply with this insanity. And you're all for it.
    Wah wah wah obama cowtowing to muslism wah wah wah.

    Don't care about your worthless partisan politics, has nothing to do with the topic.

    I suppose you haven't seen the photos and videos.
    I have. In the way people are implying when they use groping I've not really seen it. I've not seen anyone have to expose their private parts for view. I've seen a few cases where individuals acted outside of the guidelines and procedures and they should be punished for those cases, but its ridiculous to take those isolated incidents and suggest its standard.

    Can you be more specific here? How do i relate to "the shoe thing"?
    By that I meant those pushing for the focus to be on Muslims or Arabic men and not on "nuns or kids or grandma" are doing nothing different than what TSA was doing with the shoe bomber. You're seeing something happen and thus reacting specifically to that without regard for future variations.

    And who is genuinely want to **** on the Constitution? Wasn't it you who said it should be "balanced"?
    Whoever is stating that we should focus or limit our searchs simply on muslims or arabic males with broad profiling, the type of thing in law enforcement that has been found flatly unconstitutional by the SCOTUS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Calling for proper investigation is "swallowing up as if it were gospel"? Please boo stop exaggerating and being so hysterical.
    You have treated it as if it were true. It has been myself and not you stated that it is just a claim, and you've objected to that. You really a funny person Rev.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You have treated it as if it were true. It has been myself and not you stated that it is just a claim, and you've objected to that. You really a funny person Rev.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Show me a SCOTUS case stating that the TSA's searches are unconstitutional...And again, show me where the SCOTUS has ruled TSA's actions are unconstitutional...
    Red herring. The searching IN OF ITSELf is not the problem, the TYPE of search [the specific pat down policies, body scanners] is what has everybody up in arms.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I find it really, really disgusting and frankly pathetic that many of the same types of people who railed and shouted about the "drive by media" style of reporting during Katrina...hyping up singular incidents as the norm, creating a culture where people come out complaining and exaggerating to get attention, reporting on things dishonestly and in exaggerated terms...are now championing this because "See! See! So much is happening! There's so much focus".

    I will say again, anyone that considers what's going on at 99% of those screenings as "groping" are in bad need of some education in their sex life because I feel hugely sorry for whoever their partner is.

    And what's most disgusting is people like Sean Hannity who for years is going on and on and on about security who is now wantonly and openly playing politics with the security of this country and with an agency created and whose procedural methods were put into place under a President he supported simply because he wants to shove his, idiotic and inpractical, political position about profiling down peoples throats.

    The man is more worried about scoring political points, degrading muslims, and pushing his agenda than he is about security with his constant exaggerations, attempts to get the security removed, and denegration of the TSA. He's a pathetic peice of political trash and he's shown himself clearly here. And I garauntee you if we did impliment the unfeasable methods he wanted and Al Qaeda smartens up and recruits a white guy who slaps a bomb on his wheelchair bound grandma, that ****ing **** would be the first one screaming about how horrible security is under Obama, how worthless the TSA is, how the system failed, etc etc.

    You have a work force of millions with a handful of stories coming out, primarily because the media has stirred up a controversy, and its made out to be the norm. You have no intellectual honesty going on that is looking and honestly comparing this with what was going on prior to Obama being in office. You have constant and continual exaggeration, hyperbole, and distortion when speaking about it. If this was anything else you'd have most of the people on the right here screaming about the left wing media bias, the media manufacturing a story, and other such bull**** but when it suits their need to attack Obama then suddenly everything we hear is absolute gospel truth.

    Its ****ing ridiculous.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    “If once the people become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors, shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature, in spite of individual exceptions.” -- Thomas Jefferson
    Read my other posts American. I have no problem with people being up in arms about something. Be up in arms about something based on realistic fact, not exaggerated hyperbole. Be up in arms about the actual thing, not simply because its political advantageous for you to be upset because it helps you push another agenda.

    Pretty sure Jeffersons purpose in that quote wasn't "Be attentive of public affairs when it gives you a chance to insult the other sides politicians". You have conservatives quoting the ACLU as their defense for bad things happening when the ACLU was making similar accusations when Bush was in office, but of course...Bush was in Office, not Obama, so naturally the ACLU was not to be trusted then.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    Red herring. The searching IN OF ITSELf is not the problem, the TYPE of search [the specific pat down policies, body scanners] is what has everybody up in arms.
    Again, show me where that's been found to be unconstitutional. Large difference in saying you think something is unconstitutional and stating it as if its a foregone conclussive fact.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Read my other posts American. I have no problem with people being up in arms about something. Be up in arms about something based on realistic fact, not exaggerated hyperbole. Be up in arms about the actual thing, not simply because its political advantageous for you to be upset because it helps you push another agenda.

    Pretty sure Jeffersons purpose in that quote wasn't "Be attentive of public affairs when it gives you a chance to insult the other sides politicians". You have conservatives quoting the ACLU as their defense for bad things happening when the ACLU was making similar accusations when Bush was in office, but of course...Bush was in Office, not Obama, so naturally the ACLU was not to be trusted then.
    And I'm one of them, to illustrate how wrong these searches MUST be.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Again, show me where that's been found to be unconstitutional. Large difference in saying you think something is unconstitutional and stating it as if its a foregone conclussive fact.
    I think this level of search without a warrant is unreasonable.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    And I'm one of them, to illustrate how wrong these searches MUST be.
    But the ACLU had issues with the TSA BEFORE these searches, when the Bush administration was running it, and yet they were ignored or better yet blasted by Conservatives during that time.

    Yet...magically...when they're coming out against something this Administration is saying is okay and can be spun in a way to look bad for Obama, suddenly conservatives are going "see, see! The ACLU says its bad!"

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