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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Well the classic boo radley shuffle aside.....



    One could shove enough PETN up ones ass to blow a hole in a plane.


    That said what are these invasive pat downs going to accomplish?


    Will boo be for cavity searches? My guess is it depends on which party controls the white house.
    No, without ample justification and legal procedure followed, of course not. And there is no shuffle, just a certain laziness on some to actually follow the argument.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    the argument, despite a hundred 60-second submissions, has not moved an inch beyond the aclu's informed assertion that americans are being GROPED and house homeland security's measured writings about pat downs running afoul of PRIVACY and CIVIL LIBERTIES

    so we have on the one hand america's most presitigious and liberal liberty watchdog, the chair and senior member of the congressional committee most interested, and 61% of the american people

    and on the other a single twilight-zone warrior with the fastest CLICK and SUBMIT this side of the capitol

    LOL!

    admittedly, a prodigious difference of opinion

    which, bottom line, all adds up to---the white house is getting killed on this

    and racial and religious PROFILING peek peskily around the next corner to turn

    good job, barry!

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    I'm not about to go over 67 pages and over 650 posts to review the direction of this thread. So, I'll just add my worth and be done with it.

    I think those who are complaining about the airport security screenings by the TSA need to get over themselves.

    On September 11, 2001, 19 men dressed in civilian attire blended in with the rest of the American businessmen and common airline travelers and ultimately did harm to well over 3,000 innocent people using box cutters they likely hid on their person or within their carry-on luggage. The forced four commercial jets into two high rise structures in downtown NYC, our nation's defense headquarters and into a field near a small Pennsylvania town. Nine years later, our national security apporatus has finally developed a system whereby passengers are screened beyond the mere use of metal detectors and X-ray machines to scan over luggage that can still miss small objects that could poss a threat to our national security.

    As for passenger screening, metal detectors are a good first line of defense for discovering small, hand carried weapons, but as we've seen with the shoe bomber sometimes that's not enough. Speaking of the shoe bomber, people are throwing "profiling" around (again) as if that in itself will help us properly identify would-be terrorist. Sure, the nineteen 9/11 hijackers were all of middle-easteren decent (Saudi Arabian mostly), but their profiles wouldn't fit that of the Shoe Bomber nor the Christmas Day bomber from a year ago, now would it? My point?

    A terrorist has no face! You don't know what he - or she - may look like. And by focusing strictly on one democraphic or nationality, you potentially inadvertantly give the enemy an opening - hide box cutters, small components or even explosives in small amounts on small children or the elderly where such components can be reassembled onboard commercial planes. Yeah, that'll learn us to stay vigilent!! Dont' inconvenience my baby or grandma because they don't fit the profile of a killer. Real smart, people!

    Look, if these people who wish to do us harm can find a way around our airport security systems, believe me when I say THEY WILL FIND A WAY! And this petty scabbling about the TSA trying to do their job to keep us safe is bound to give them the exact opening they need to get past the system.

    15-20 minutes of having your body generely touched in an non-evasive way is a very small price to pay for your security - and your life! My advice...

    STFU and move through the full body scanners if you don't want to be "felt up!" And if you're embarrased about how your body may appear on the full-body scanner, might I suggest you hit the gym?

    GET OVER YOURSELVES, AMERICA! Life in a post-9/11 world has changed. And if that means you'll be inconvenienced for a brief while just to keep your butts safe, then so be it! STOP YOUR WHINING, go through the security procedures intended to keep you safe and board the GD planes already.

    And I'm out 'cause this entire oreal is so stupid!!!
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Look, if these people who wish to do us harm can find a way around our airport security systems, believe me when I say THEY WILL FIND A WAY!
    Then the only thing this does is inconvenience and piss off scores of ordinary, law-abiding Americans.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Then the only thing this does is inconvenience and piss off scores of ordinary, law-abiding Americans.
    Then you're just gonna have to be pissed off. If it means protecting your life -vs- 15-20 mins inconvenience, I say be inconvenienced!

    When 9/11 happened we had citizens screaming at the FAA and the Bush Administration asking...demanding to know why our government didn't do enough to protect us. Now that they (the TSA) have these security measures in place, these same people are complaining about being touched or inconvenienced. But the moment another hijacker gets through airport security because they weren't properly searched, yourself and others will be right back complaining to the government again demanding to know why they didn't screen the hijackers.

    IT'S RIDICULOUS!!!

    If you don't want your junk to be touched, go through the scanner. If you must get manually screened, accept it as a necessary security procedure FOR YOUR SAFETY and the SECURITY OF THE NATION and move on!

    It's really just that simple. No call to your freedom being taken away, no intrusion on your person, no civil or human rights violations. ENOUGH OF THE BS! Just go throught the scanner, get frisked if necessary, board your flight and have a nice day.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I'm not about to go over 67 pages and over 650 posts to review the direction of this thread. So, I'll just add my worth and be done with it.

    I think those who are complaining about the airport security screenings by the TSA need to get over themselves.

    On September 11, 2001, 19 men dressed in civilian attire blended in with the rest of the American businessmen and common airline travelers and ultimately did harm to well over 3,000 innocent people using box cutters they likely hid on their person or within their carry-on luggage. The forced four commercial jets into two high rise structures in downtown NYC, our nation's defense headquarters and into a field near a small Pennsylvania town. Nine years later, our national security apporatus has finally developed a system whereby passengers are screened beyond the mere use of metal detectors and X-ray machines to scan over luggage that can still miss small objects that could poss a threat to our national security.

    As for passenger screening, metal detectors are a good first line of defense for discovering small, hand carried weapons, but as we've seen with the shoe bomber sometimes that's not enough. Speaking of the shoe bomber, people are throwing "profiling" around (again) as if that in itself will help us properly identify would-be terrorist. Sure, the nineteen 9/11 hijackers were all of middle-easteren decent (Saudi Arabian mostly), but their profiles wouldn't fit that of the Shoe Bomber nor the Christmas Day bomber from a year ago, now would it? My point?

    A terrorist has no face! You don't know what he - or she - may look like. And by focusing strictly on one democraphic or nationality, you potentially inadvertantly give the enemy an opening - hide box cutters, small components or even explosives in small amounts on small children or the elderly where such components can be reassembled onboard commercial planes. Yeah, that'll learn us to stay vigilent!! Dont' inconvenience my baby or grandma because they don't fit the profile of a killer. Real smart, people!

    Look, if these people who wish to do us harm can find a way around our airport security systems, believe me when I say THEY WILL FIND A WAY! And this petty scabbling about the TSA trying to do their job to keep us safe is bound to give them the exact opening they need to get past the system.

    15-20 minutes of haivng your body generely touched in an non-evasive way is a very small price to pay for your security - and your life! My advice...

    STFU and move through the full body scanners if you don't want to be "felt up!" And if you're embarrased about how your body may appear on the full-body scanner, might I suggest you hit the gym?

    GET OVER YOURSELVES, AMERICA! Life in a post-9/11 world has changed. And if that means you'll be inconvenienced for a brief while just to keep your butts safe, then so be it! STOP YOUR WHINING, go through the security procedures intended to keep you safe and board the GD planes already.

    And I'm out 'cause this entire oreal is so stupid!!!
    And, if they weren't strip searching 7 y/o little boys, with autism, your point would make perfect sense.

    The 9/11 hijackers were all on the no-fly list and bought tickest using their real names.

    The under-roo bomber bought a one way ticket, paid with cash and didn't have any luggage; nevermind the fact that he was on the no-fly list and his pop ratted him out to the US Embassy; he certainly should have recieved more scrutiny.

    The current procedures are a monument to the stupidity of political correctness. It has nothing to do with stopping terrorists and everything to do with convincing people of how fair we are.

    You're not going to catch a terrorist, by making a stewardess, with 32 years of service in the airline industry, remove her prostetic tit for inspection.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Then you're just gonna have to be pissed off. If it means protecting your life -vs- 15-20 mins inconvenience, I say be inconvenienced!
    But you say they'll find a way around security no matter what, so it's not protecting my life. It's only inconveniencing and invading me.

    I'm sure you're all good with the Patriot Act, too.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Then you're just gonna have to be pissed off. If it means protecting your life -vs- 15-20 mins inconvenience, I say be inconvenienced!
    Yeah, because we gotta keep a sharp eye on those Catholic nuns and three y/o girls. They can do some sneaky ****.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Well the classic boo radley shuffle aside.....



    One could shove enough PETN up ones ass to blow a hole in a plane.


    That said what are these invasive pat downs going to accomplish?


    Will boo be for cavity searches? My guess is it depends on which party controls the white house.
    My guess would be, it depends on who does the cavity search...


    Her...




    or him...



    (I choose her)

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I'm not about to go over 67 pages and over 650 posts to review the direction of this thread. So, I'll just add my worth and be done with it.

    I think those who are complaining about the airport security screenings by the TSA need to get over themselves.

    On September 11, 2001, 19 men dressed in civilian attire blended in with the rest of the American businessmen and common airline travelers and ultimately did harm to well over 3,000 innocent people using box cutters they likely hid on their person or within their carry-on luggage. The forced four commercial jets into two high rise structures in downtown NYC, our nation's defense headquarters and into a field near a small Pennsylvania town. Nine years later, our national security apporatus has finally developed a system whereby passengers are screened beyond the mere use of metal detectors and X-ray machines to scan over luggage that can still miss small objects that could poss a threat to our national security.

    As for passenger screening, metal detectors are a good first line of defense for discovering small, hand carried weapons, but as we've seen with the shoe bomber sometimes that's not enough. Speaking of the shoe bomber, people are throwing "profiling" around (again) as if that in itself will help us properly identify would-be terrorist. Sure, the nineteen 9/11 hijackers were all of middle-easteren decent (Saudi Arabian mostly), but their profiles wouldn't fit that of the Shoe Bomber nor the Christmas Day bomber from a year ago, now would it? My point?

    A terrorist has no face! You don't know what he - or she - may look like. And by focusing strictly on one democraphic or nationality, you potentially inadvertantly give the enemy an opening - hide box cutters, small components or even explosives in small amounts on small children or the elderly where such components can be reassembled onboard commercial planes. Yeah, that'll learn us to stay vigilent!! Dont' inconvenience my baby or grandma because they don't fit the profile of a killer. Real smart, people!

    Look, if these people who wish to do us harm can find a way around our airport security systems, believe me when I say THEY WILL FIND A WAY! And this petty scabbling about the TSA trying to do their job to keep us safe is bound to give them the exact opening they need to get past the system.

    15-20 minutes of having your body generely touched in an non-evasive way is a very small price to pay for your security - and your life! My advice...

    STFU and move through the full body scanners if you don't want to be "felt up!" And if you're embarrased about how your body may appear on the full-body scanner, might I suggest you hit the gym?

    GET OVER YOURSELVES, AMERICA! Life in a post-9/11 world has changed. And if that means you'll be inconvenienced for a brief while just to keep your butts safe, then so be it! STOP YOUR WHINING, go through the security procedures intended to keep you safe and board the GD planes already.

    And I'm out 'cause this entire oreal is so stupid!!!

    Why does it matter where a terrorist bomb is detonated? How is it any less terrorizing for terrorists to blow up the hundreds of people waiting in line to go through these security check points then blowing up a plane in mid air? The first time they blow up the crowd at the security gate, air travel will be shut down and government officials will be scrambling to convince us they have taken the necessary precautions to prevent that from happening again.

    Hey look, the horse just ran out of the barn, go shut the door!

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