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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It doesn't matter who exaggerates, it is still exaggeration.
    you can only speak for yourself, remember?

    you don't speak for the ACLU

    LOL!

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    nor for house homeland security---runs afoul of PRIVACY and CIVIL RIGHTS

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Proper? Would you let your 14 year old daughter go through that scanner, or succumb to a invasive pat down?
    I have no problem with the scanner, and the pat down, when done properly is not invasive. So, don't exaggerate it.


    I already did. Go back and read.
    If I believed you had, I wouldn't have asked that you do. What you presented was not a loss of freedom.

    This smacks of blaming rape victims for their attacks, do you think that as well?
    It's nothing of the kind, just more hyperbole on your part.


    So far. Those cases haven't been challenged in court yet, but I have the feeling they will. So you really can't speak authoritatively on it can you?
    Amazing that you believe only a court can speak on what a word means, on what reality is. No, we can look at it, see it and know it isn't what some claim.

    Do you have any non shill sources?
    You mean like the American NON-Thinker or NRO?

    Uh huh, and do you know how much training is given these TSA employees before they hand them a box of rubber gloves? I do.
    Not enough, but that is another issue. As I said, there are reasons for objection, but not the exaggerated claims of fondling, feeling up, or gorpping.


    What? The 4th amendment? or Air travel?
    No one has to be searched. They can go home. They take a bus. They can drive a car. No one has to be searched. I suspect that makes just a bit of difference. Do you believe this is the only place a person has to be searched before they can enter in the US?



    Really? Where are your arrests? Where are your war crimes prosecutions? I would think if it were so damned clear to the entire world, then at least that would have happened by now.

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    As I have shown you countless times before, US citizens have been charged, have been prosecuted, have been court marshalled for waterborading. It is disingenuous to claim otherwise. We've been through this before.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It doesn't matter who exaggerates, it is still exaggeration. When will you get that?
    So stick to your guns, even when faced with the opposite being said by an organization that you have long agreed with. Everybody is wrong but you eh? is that it?


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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So stick to your guns, even when faced with the opposite being said by an organization that you have long agreed with. Everybody is wrong but you eh? is that it?


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    No, I don;t always agree with the ACLU, just believe they serve a necessary function. But this is again the difference between us. You look at what people "SAY" while I look at what something actually IS.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, I'll play....please tell me how many Nun's have been caught in the continental US, waiting to board a domestic commercial flight, with C-4 strapped to the chest board of their habbit, if they were even wearing a habbit?

    You can't, it's insane, we are hassling the wrong people.
    Let's take that a bit further. How many terrorists has TSA caught bringing any kind of weapon aboard a domestic flight since the agency was formed? Zero, that's how many.

    How many terrorists or wannabes anywhere in the world for the last ten or fifteen years have NOT been Muslims?

    Will the nudie booths detect anything that cannot be found with metal detectors or sniffer dogs?
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    you can only speak for yourself, remember?

    you don't speak for the ACLU

    LOL!

    GROPING

    nor for house homeland security---runs afoul of PRIVACY and CIVIL RIGHTS

    no filter equals no self respect
    No, I don't speak for the ACLU and don't claim to. But BS is BS no matter who says it. And I speak for me when I call it what it is.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I have no problem with the scanner, and the pat down, when done properly is not invasive. So, don't exaggerate it.
    Amazing. So you have no problem with a total stranger looking at your 14 year old daughter's naked body....Not me brother.

    If I believed you had, I wouldn't have asked that you do. What you presented was not a loss of freedom.
    Denial ain't just a river Boo.

    It's nothing of the kind, just more hyperbole on your part.
    Not true, and as much as it pains me to type this, the ACLU agrees with me.

    Not enough, but that is another issue. As I said, there are reasons for objection, but not the exaggerated claims of fondling, feeling up, or gorpping.
    So they don't give enough training to do the search properly, but you still hold fast that they are being done properly. Sorry dude, you lost this one.

    You mean like the American NON-Thinker or NRO?
    No, I didn't ask for opinion pieces did I? There is your comprehension problem again relating to this issue.

    No one has to be searched. They can go home. They take a bus. They can drive a car. No one has to be searched. I suspect that makes just a bit of difference. Do you believe this is the only place a person has to be searched before they can enter in the US?
    Yep, you are correct, they can take a train, or bus. But when they leave the airport they should also be prepared for an $11,000.00 fine.....Now that's freedom.

    As I have shown you countless times before, US citizens have been charged, have been prosecuted, have been court marshalled for waterborading. It is disingenuous to claim otherwise. We've been through this before.
    You've disseminated quite a bit of false liberal accusation in the past, going on 6 years now to me....Pardon me if I can't keep all the BS straight.


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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I have no problem with the scanner, and the pat down
    no one (but you) cares what you think, this thread isn't about you

    it's about the american people and their institutions

    and the aclu and dem controlled house committee on homeland security trump the tiny napoleon

    What you presented was not a loss of freedom.
    tell it sheila jackson lee

    just more hyperbole on your part.
    no, it's hyperbole on the part of THE ACLU

    Amazing that you believe only a court can speak on what a word means
    that's what dictionaries are for

    LOL!

    You mean like the American NON-Thinker or NRO?
    no, more like abc, ap, reuters, politico and THE ACLU

    LOL!

    As I said...
    LOL!

    there are reasons for objection, but not the exaggerated claims of fondling, feeling up, or gorpping (sic).
    there you go again, trying to speak for THE ACLU

    LOL!

    We've been through this before.
    LOL!

    you're hilarious

    no filter equals no self respect

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Amazing. So you have no problem with a total stranger looking at your 14 year old daughter's naked body....Not me brother.
    Have you looked at what is on the scanner screen? Seriously, you may wnat to see someone if you find that arousing.



    Not true, and as much as it pains me to type this, the ACLU agrees with me.
    Which means what? Would you argue the ACLU is never wrong and is never hyperbolic?



    So they don't give enough training to do the search properly, but you still hold fast that they are being done properly. Sorry dude, you lost this one.
    Most of what has been reported has not been fondling, or sexually inappropriate in any way. I believe only one was fopund to be inappropriate. So, yes, they do need more training, especially in how to deal with children, but no, a proper pat down is not fondling or gropping or feeling up.


    No, I didn't ask for opinion pieces did I? There is your comprehension problem again relating to this issue.
    I didn't give you an opinion piece. I quoted a fact, and a fact check.

    Yep, you are correct, they can take a train, or bus. But when they leave the airport they should also be prepared for an $11,000.00 fine.....Now that's freedom.
    Give it your best shot.

    You've disseminated quite a bit of false liberal accusation in the past, going on 6 years now to me....Pardon me if I can't keep all the BS straight.


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    J, that's just your spin and skewed world view. Your BS if you will.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Have you looked at what is on the scanner screen? Seriously, you may want to see someone if you find that arousing.
    We don't usually agree, but on this we do. Those images (I posted several in this thread) are not even remotely arousing.

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