Page 58 of 88 FirstFirst ... 848565758596068 ... LastLast
Results 571 to 580 of 879

Thread: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

  1. #571
    Sage
    Gibberish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    San Diego, CA
    Last Seen
    12-23-12 @ 09:29 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    6,339

    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Much of your point is well taken, however I do have a problem with the "reasonable" part of this. Is it really reasonable to be searching a person with a catheter? A Nun? A child? on inner US flights from point A to point B with in the US? I'd say no. What it is is a response with heavy PC thrown in so as not to offend our true enemies.

    j-mac
    You really can't have exceptions when it comes to security. That creates loop holes that can be exploited to bypass the system. The public would love a more lax security that makes their day-to-day easier but the second another attack unfolds they will be yelling as to why more extreme security measures weren't in place.

    What needs to happen is a more efficient way of scanning to be introduced that meets the base requirements of security and violates the traveler as little as possible. Requiring a hurried and ill-educated person man handling another is NOT the solution.
    Last edited by Gibberish; 11-23-10 at 02:59 PM.
    "Gold gets dug out of the ground in Africa, or someplace. Then we melt it down, dig another hole, bury it again and pay people to stand around guarding it. It has no utility. Anyone watching from Mars would be scratching their head."
    - Warren Buffett

  2. #572
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:11 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,326

    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    What's so funny? I completely agree with Boo... nothing could make me feel more "free" than being detained by the government under threat of arrest or massive fines unless I submit to genital groping by a gloved security guard.

    Now that I think about it, it probably epitomizes the ideal of Liberty.

    GAWD! what a sucky job that has to be when your boss says, "hey Sam! Get over here and cup this guys package."

    EEEEWWWWWWW!


    j-mac
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

  3. #573
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:11 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,326

    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    You really can't have exceptions when it comes to security. That creates loop holes that can be exploited to bypass the system. The public would love a more lax security that makes their day-to-day easier but the second another attack unfolds they will be yelling as to why more extreme security measures weren't in place.

    What needs to happen is a more efficient way of scanning to be introduced that meets the base requirements of security and violates the traveler as little as possible. Requiring a hurried and ill-educated person man handling another is NOT the solution.

    Agreed, do you think that Israel has it right?


    j-mac
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

  4. #574
    Banned
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    dimensionally transcendental
    Last Seen
    08-15-11 @ 04:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    7,153

    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    why not have the full body scanners only go shoulder high? Keep the head out of it entirely? That way, no one knows whose semi-visible nekkidness is whose... privacy.

  5. #575
    Sage
    Gibberish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    San Diego, CA
    Last Seen
    12-23-12 @ 09:29 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    6,339

    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Agreed, do you think that Israel has it right?

    j-mac
    Elements yes. We couldn't take it as far as Israel does in singling out specific groups though since America has such a culturally diverse population. But that's not to say profiling and flagged people to be monitored isn't needed. We are so PC in this country that the invidiual is completly taken out of the security process. All we care about is what items they happen to have access to while traveling, not their intent on using them.

    I think profiling and study of individuals (tones, actions, etc.) is required and having multiple points of contact through the airport like Israel does is something that is needed.
    Last edited by Gibberish; 11-23-10 at 03:16 PM.
    "Gold gets dug out of the ground in Africa, or someplace. Then we melt it down, dig another hole, bury it again and pay people to stand around guarding it. It has no utility. Anyone watching from Mars would be scratching their head."
    - Warren Buffett

  6. #576
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:11 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,326

    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    why not have the full body scanners only go shoulder high? Keep the head out of it entirely? That way, no one knows whose semi-visible nekkidness is whose... privacy.

    Nah, what about them exploding eye glasses? got to see those....Next up for Christmas? Body Cavity searches....Get ready, mark my words.


    j-mac
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

  7. #577
    Sage
    Gibberish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    San Diego, CA
    Last Seen
    12-23-12 @ 09:29 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    6,339

    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    why not have the full body scanners only go shoulder high? Keep the head out of it entirely? That way, no one knows whose semi-visible nekkidness is whose... privacy.
    People would still feel violated and not to mentino the health concerns that the machines cause are still present.
    "Gold gets dug out of the ground in Africa, or someplace. Then we melt it down, dig another hole, bury it again and pay people to stand around guarding it. It has no utility. Anyone watching from Mars would be scratching their head."
    - Warren Buffett

  8. #578
    Sage
    Gibberish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    San Diego, CA
    Last Seen
    12-23-12 @ 09:29 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    6,339

    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nah, what about them exploding eye glasses? got to see those....Next up for Christmas? Body Cavity searches....Get ready, mark my words.


    j-mac
    I'm actually traveling Christmas eve with my two year old son. I'm prepared to knock someone out when they ask to search his diaper.
    "Gold gets dug out of the ground in Africa, or someplace. Then we melt it down, dig another hole, bury it again and pay people to stand around guarding it. It has no utility. Anyone watching from Mars would be scratching their head."
    - Warren Buffett

  9. #579
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:11 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,326

    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Elements yes. We couldn't take it as far as Israel does in singling out specific groups though since America has such a culturally diverse population.
    Why not?


    But that's not to say profiling and flagged people to be monitored isn't needed.
    didn't you just say that we couldn't do that?

    We are so PC in this country that the invidiual is completly taken out of the security process.
    That sounds like an exploitable problem to me, or a loophole if you will.

    All we care about is what items they happen to have access to while traveling, not their intent on using them.
    Yes, God forbid a Nun has some hand lotion.

    I think profiling and study of individuals (tons, actions, etc.) is required and having multiple points of contact through the airport like Israel does is something that is needed.
    Yet we cow to CAIR who says that we can only pat down the head and neck of a woman wearing a Hijab....Great.


    j-mac
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

  10. #580
    Sage
    Taylor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    US
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:03 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    6,170

    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    a useless product that may very well have horrible long term health impact in forms of cancer for frequent fliers.
    Not just frequent fliers. These machines have not been submitted to thorough independent testing. There is concern for older adults and skin cancer...women with a genetic predisposition for breast cancer...people with compromised immune systems...children...pregnant women...men who are likely to father children...and people who still have their corneas and thymus gland intact.

    That is, so long as you've already had a thymectomy and lost your sight but are otherwise healthy, are middle aged and fly infrequently, there's really very little reason for concern.

Page 58 of 88 FirstFirst ... 848565758596068 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •