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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It's a good question:

    A CBS News survey showed 81 percent of people polled approve of the use of full-body X-ray machines. A Washington Post/ABC News survey found nearly two-thirds of respondents in support. When it comes to the pat downs, respondents were practically split down the middle. Still 70 percent of Americans questioned in the Washington Post/ABC News poll said the new TSA rules made no difference in their decision to fly.

    TSA complaints: Warranted outrage? Or all bark, no bite? – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs

    Myth: Complaints about the pat-downs are extremely high.
    Fact: Only a small percentage of the traveling public receives a pat down as they travel through the security checkpoint. Approximately 2 million people fly in the United States every day. The number of complaints is extremely low.

    The TSA Blog

    I'll keep looking but I haven't found anything that has actually counted them.
    These polls are worthless. Less than 20% of the public even flies more than once a year.

    What do you think the percentage of objections would be from those who have undergone it ??

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not lie. A mistake of which I took credit for. Now, if you'll just do the same, we'll be fine.


    Right... Selling bridges in my hometown as well?


    You got caught bro. Pretending otherwise is a transparent joke.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    These polls are worthless. Less than 20% of the public even flies more than once a year.

    What do you think the percentage of objections would be from those who have undergone it ??
    That may be true, but polling people who aren't flying wouldn't mean that much either. And I can only speak for myself, and I can't see why I would have a problem with it. But even if I did, I wouldn't call it fondling or feeling up.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Right... Selling bridges in my hometown as well?


    You got caught bro. Pretending otherwise is a transparent joke.
    Do whatever you have to not to actually participate in honest debate.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Do whatever you have to not to actually participate in honest debate.
    I suggest you follow your own advice.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I suggest you follow your own advice.
    Did I not answer you in full and good faith?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    reading skills are important. When I spoke of exaggerating and hyperbole, I always had as part of the fondling and the feeling up. Go back and read, and see that I even defined the words. Please, try to be somewhat honest.
    I remember having a discussion with you some time ago Boo, when JD3 was the moniker, about the water boarding that Bush was doing. And in that discussion I was making the argument that the people being water boarded were necessary to take that measure to stop a possible attack.

    You argued strongly against it, even to the point where I posed the question that if your own family was in danger you would not do this? You argued no, that if people died that was regrettable but a part of retaining our freedom.

    Now you argue for giving up that freedom when you will not answer the pertinent questions. Why?


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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I hope you don't mind that you "heard" is not really enogh to be accepted as fact. I do know I heard a woman on TV this morning say she had no problem with it, and the question was at all vague.
    So then produce the internals....Can you? I mean I will accept that a conversation I heard on the radio may not have it all together factual, but you can clear that up with the internals. Please don't expect me to accept your dismissal just because you can poke a hole on the fringe and not touch the important point.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I remember having a discussion with you some time ago Boo, when JD3 was the moniker, about the water boarding that Bush was doing. And in that discussion I was making the argument that the people being water boarded were necessary to take that measure to stop a possible attack.

    You argued strongly against it, even to the point where I posed the question that if your own family was in danger you would not do this? You argued no, that if people died that was regrettable but a part of retaining our freedom.

    Now you argue for giving up that freedom when you will not answer the pertinent questions. Why?


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    Quite a difference in the two things. Torture is expressedly illegal, not to mention immoral.

    And I don't see anyone giving up freedom. It's a simple pat down. No freedom taken away at as best I can see.

    But, again, I repeat, it is the hyperbole and exaggeration I am having a problem with. It isn't fondling or feeling up. You are free to go through the scanner, not much different than the metal scanners we've gone through for years. There doesn't seem to actually be a health risk and there certainly isn't any sexual about them. But if you don't want to do that, you are free to choose a pat down, or not to fly. So, no freedom is being taken away. And no laws broken that I can see. And certainly nothing equal to torture.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So then produce the internals....Can you? I mean I will accept that a conversation I heard on the radio may not have it all together factual, but you can clear that up with the internals. Please don't expect me to accept your dismissal just because you can poke a hole on the fringe and not touch the important point.

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    I wouldn't expect either of us to accept anything. But if you bring it up, and you did, I would expect more than what you heard.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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