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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I find it disturbing that there are so many willing to jump on the side of government in this case. Be it excuses from "you waved your rights" to "they're keeping us safe"; there has been much argument for this type of expansion of government against the rights of the individual. I find it unfortunate that people will argue for the Catch-22 in which the People have no ability to affect the system or bring government under control. It's hard to imagine what sort of fear would prompt one to support draconian and obviously intrusive, big brother tactics against the People.
    it's hard to imagine (but easy to see, it's all thru this thread) how blind, kneejerk, 60 second partisanship could prompt one to support draconian and obviously intrusive, big brother tactics against little girls and grammas, the disabled and the dictionary deprived

    but it is what it is

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Posting the same type of hyperbolic exaggerations do not constitute posting facts. People overreacting is evidence of actual fondling or groping or feeling up. You have to first show someone actually doing those things, and then you have to show that is what the TSA intended. You have not done that.
    Ah. You're the one who considers any dissenting opinion a "hyperbolic exaggeration." How grand it must be for you to consistently try to evade points and arguments.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Posting the same type of hyperbolic exaggerations do not constitute posting facts. People overreacting is evidence of actual fondling or groping or feeling up. You have to first show someone actually doing those things, and then you have to show that is what the TSA intended. You have not done that.
    I did, but you obviously didn't notice. But here's the other shoe.


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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I did, but you obviously didn't notice. But here's the other shoe.


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    I'm a little concerned that you think an article on lobbying does thie:

    People overreacting is evidence of actual fondling or groping or feeling up. You have to first show someone actually doing those things, and then you have to show that is what the TSA intended. You have not done that.

    I have to say you have not shown either. Sorry.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Ah. You're the one who considers any dissenting opinion a "hyperbolic exaggeration." How grand it must be for you to consistently try to evade points and arguments.
    Not at all, which is why I showed a dissenting opinion that wasn't hyperbolic exaggeration. But if you're running around screaming fondling, feelling up and groping, you are engaged in hyperbolic exaggeration. Sorry.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I find it disturbing that there are so many willing to jump on the side of government in this case. Be it excuses from "you waved your rights" to "they're keeping us safe"; there has been much argument for this type of expansion of government against the rights of the individual. I find it unfortunate that people will argue for the Catch-22 in which the People have no ability to affect the system or bring government under control. It's hard to imagine what sort of fear would prompt one to support draconian and obviously intrusive, big brother tactics against the People.
    Not so much the side of the government as it is anti exaggeration. No one was felt up. No fondling. Object on reasonable grounds and without the hyperbole. Again, that's why I posted an argument that was, IMHO, more reasonable as an objection.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Constantly dismissing the many complaints as exaggerations and lies is not much of an argument.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Constantly dismissing the many complaints as exaggerations and lies is not much of an argument.
    Funny how that works.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Constantly dismissing the many complaints as exaggerations and lies is not much of an argument.
    Exactly. My own grandparents were, ah, frisked. Apparently Boo agrees with anything the government does; personal experience by people being affected by this issue directly be damned, it seems.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Constantly dismissing the many complaints as exaggerations and lies is not much of an argument.
    Would you argue that just because someone complains it must be true?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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