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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    El Al subjects every single piece of luggage, both checked and carry-on, to decompression before it's put on an airplane.
    I don't care what El Al does.

    If they are given free rein at airport checkpoints, they will succeed.
    Who said anything about "free rein"? That's about as false a dichotomy as they come.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    So which is it, Boo? Are you "not following me at all," or have you figured out exactly what my position is? What I find unreasonable is the obvious contradiction, which belies any good faith you're trying to present here.

    And also your shifting goalposts; what you claimed is that I said specific things which I did not. And now to make it seem like you didn't pooch it, you're claiming you simply said I was "unreasonable." Which, of course, further torpedoes the tone of good faith you're trying to present.

    You're being exceptionally dishonest. And I've lost count of how many times of I've asked you this now, but if you're right, why do you have to make things up?
    I do not know exactly what your position is if you don't think people are being felt up or molested as you defended those people. I do understand your comment about killing the business, and find it hyperbolic and an exaggeration, though not of the level those saying people are being felt up are at. And I do find the Napoleon complex silliness to also be partisan and unhelpful as well over the top.

    As for being dishonest, when you defend something, and they say, "but I never said those words, so you're being dishonest," I would argue the reverse. I would argue that you're the one being dishonest here. There is no goal post change, when you defend words, you own those words. You're saying me too, unless you clarify. And I have offered you an opportunity to clarify. Instead, you've been indignated, and dare I say just a tad dishonest.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    No, Boo. You claimed specifically that I said something I didn't.

    And what I did say -- my sum total of comment on the matter -- was that there are those who have gone through the process who think they were felt up or even "molested."

    So, I think you should seek those people out and tell them they're wrong. Let us know what they say back.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No, Boo. You claimed specifically that I said something I didn't.

    And what I did say -- my sum total of comment on the matter -- was that there are those who have gone through the process who think they were felt up or even "molested."

    So, I think you should seek those people out and tell them they're wrong. Let us know what they say back.
    Again, in defense of them. No reasonable person would see this as feeling up. And I have told anyone who says it that they are worng. And that includes those who defend them. Hyperbolic overexaggeration is just that.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, in defense of them. No reasonable person would see this as feeling up. And I have told anyone who says it that they are worng. And that includes those who defend them. Hyperbolic overexaggeration is just that.

    You know, I'm probably more inclined to take seriously the view of someone who's actually been through the process than I am some dishonest Internet poster who hasn't and has an obvious agenda in defending a liberal adminstration's actions.

    THAT, I consider ENTIRELY reasonable. And no matter how you try to spin, no, I never said what you claimed I did.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I don't care what El Al does.
    I included that as a useful bit of information for those people on this website who are actually here to learn something rather than simply pontificate. Oh! I just noticed. I wasn't talking to you.

    Who said anything about "free rein"? That's about as false a dichotomy as they come.
    Know what's funny? I can't even find a post where you put forth an opinion on current security measures and what you think they should be. You're just slamming what we've got. How about stating your actual opinion instead of sniping at those who do. I'll wait.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    You know, I'm probably more inclined to take seriously the view of someone who's actually been through the process than I am some dishonest Internet poster who hasn't and has an obvious agenda in defending a liberal adminstration's actions.

    THAT, I consider ENTIRELY reasonable. And no matter how you try to spin, no, I never said what you claimed I did.
    Why? How about those who went through it and didn't complain? Should you consider them? and what about looking at what was filmed and making a judgment? Seruioulsy.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I included that as a useful bit of information for those people on this website who are actually here to learn something rather than simply pontificate.
    No, you're using it in order to "pontificate" your own point.

    Know what's funny? I can't even find a post where you put forth an opinion on current security measures and what you think they should be. You're just slamming what we've got. How about stating your actual opinion instead of sniping at those who do. I'll wait.
    I don't need to state what kind of car I prefer in order to articulate why I don't want a Hummer.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Why? How about those who went through it and didn't complain? Should you consider them? and what about looking at what was filmed and making a judgment? Seruioulsy.
    What makes you think I didn't? You're the one who's making sweeping declarations about what's reasonable to conclude about this and what isn't. I pointed out that 1) some who have gone through it disagree and 2) I find THEM more credible than YOU.

    I didn't dismiss anyone BUT you.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    What makes you think I didn't? You're the one who's making sweeping declarations about what's reasonable to conclude about this and what isn't. I pointed out that 1) some who have gone through it disagree and 2) I find THEM more credible than YOU.

    I didn't dismiss anyone BUT you.
    Feeling up has an actual definition. Watching them pat people down, it's clear that it isn't feeling up. You giving credence to hyperbolic exaggeration again brings me back to you owning that view.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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