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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    What disingenuous horse****.

    You won't agree with me because you think this is fine. That isn't going to change.

    What actually mean is, you'll agree with ME if I'm "more reasonable" and agree with YOU.

    He'll change his mind if the next president is a Republican and continues this policy.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    1) Bull****. This is a TSA measure, not a duly-enacted law.

    2) Any law or regulation or action involving a search must absolutely be justified against the 4th Amendment. Merely passing it doesn't make it so.
    The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) was created [MaggieD adds, "by Congress"] in the wake of 9/11 to strengthen the security of the nation’s transportation systems while ensuring the freedom of movement for people and commerce. Within a year, TSA assumed responsibility for security at the nation’s airports and deployed a Federal workforce to meet Congressional deadlines for screening all commercial airline passengers and baggage. In March 2003, TSA transferred from the Department of Transportation to the Department of Homeland Security.
    You're not doing much for my view of cops and how backwards they frequently seem to understand the relationship between citizen and state. You work for us. We don't work for you.

    (Actually, I find that runs about 50/50; about half of the cops I know do take civil liberties very seriously, but I guess we know which 50 you're in.)
    A new CBS News Poll released Monday found 81 percent of Americans think airports should use these new machines -- including a majority of both men and women, Americans of all age groups, and Democrats, Republicans, and independents alike. Fifteen percent said airports should not use them.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Whatever. What percentage of Americans actually fly? Moreover, what percentage of Americans have actually experienced the Federal Nudie Booths and/or Federal Groping, seeing as these tactics have only been out in full force for a couple weeks?

    And more importantly, since when are civil liberties subject to a popular vote?
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Factual some can. Even wiretapping can be done under the proper conditions. I don't object with proper oversight, for example. It is all about the circumstance and specifics. This is the problem we always have in these debates, your side tends to treat unlike things as if they are alkike and lump things together as if there is no nuance, all of nothing. it doesn't work that way. Everything is in the details.
    You've glossed over it at least twice now.
    You're arguing for some of the most invasive violations of privacy for one of the safest forms of transportation. It's frankly ridiculous that you think getting on a plane is the most vulnerable you're going to be at any given point in your life. Your argument that airplane security can be rationalized because it's been a threat in the past is even further off base. You've never heard of Oklahoma City... Or Columbine? How many planes were involved in those?
    Please, rationalize the above. Where else do you think overly invasive, yet unnecessary security should be implemented?
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Whatever. What percentage of Americans actually fly? Moreover, what percentage of Americans have actually experienced the Federal Nudie Booths and/or Federal Groping, seeing as these tactics have only been out in full force for a couple weeks?

    And more importantly, since when are civil liberties subject to a popular vote?
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    There are none so blind as those who would not see.
    I suggest you try harder to see, then.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I suggest you try harder to see, then.
    Nanny-nanny-boo-boo. Give me a break.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    There are none so blind as those who would not see.
    What a brilliant and well thought-out answer. I guess if 80% of the American people (most of whom never fly) want me to submit to the Federal Nudie Booths, I better comply. That's what democracy is all about. It's not like we have a Bill of Rights or anything.

    I'll tell you what. Whenever pollsters ask this question and the respondent answers yes, it should be accompanied by a groping of the interviewee. Then the respondent can decide if he or she would like to change his answer. If not, the pollster gropes him/her again.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Nanny-nanny-boo-boo. Give me a break.
    Sorry, lady. You can't climb into a highchair and call someone else a child.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    What a brilliant and well thought-out answer. I guess if 80% of the American people (most of whom never fly) want me to submit to the Federal Nudie Booths, I better comply. That's what democracy is all about. It's not like we have a Bill of Rights or anything.

    I'll tell you what. Whenever pollsters ask this question and the respondent answers yes, it should be accompanied by a groping of the interviewee. Then the respondent can decide if he or she would like to change his answer. If not, the pollster gropes him/her again.
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