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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Your argument is childish, imo. I don't need the government's permission to chose to travel one way or another. Travel any way you'd like. But if you choose to fly, OMFG!!!!!!!, be prepared that the security of other passengers aboard that airplane comes before your right to object to security protocols legally in place.
    Yeah, right. Security protocols like this would not offend you, eh?

    Airport staff 'exposed woman's breasts, laughed'

    The woman says she was singled out for "extended search procedures" while preparing to board a plane to Amarillo in May 2008.

    “As the TSA agent was frisking plaintiff, the agent pulled the plaintiff’s blouse completely down, exposing plaintiffs’ breasts to everyone in the area,” the lawsuit said.

    “As would be expected, plaintiff was extremely embarrassed and humiliated.”

    The lawsuit claims that other employees laughed and made jokes about the incident "for an extended period of time".

    The distraught woman left the screening area to be consoled but when she re-entered the boarding area employees allegedly started joking about the matter.

    "One male TSA employee expressed to the plaintiff that he wished he would have been there when she came through the first time and that 'he would just have to watch the video,'" the suit said.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Oh, by the way -- my right to "object" to anything is not trumped by any airline security concern.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Saying that body scanners violate Islamic law, Muslim-American groups are supporting a "fatwa" — a religious ruling — that forbids Muslims from going through the scanners at airports.

    Airport body scanners violate Islamic law, Muslims say - USATODAY.com
    It was at a news conference that Napolitano was asked by CNSNews.com, "On the pat-downs, CAIR has recommended that Muslim women wearing hijabs refuse to go through the full body pat-downs before board plans. Will you insist that they do go through full body pat-downs before boarding planes?"

    Napolitano didn't answer the question. Instead she talked about the need to keep powders and gels and liquids off passenger jets.

    What she did say was, "We are doing what we need to do to protect the traveling public and adjustments will be made where they need to be made."

    Napolitano: 'More to come' on Muslims, pat-downs
    yep, wouldn't want to go against any Fatwa's now would we?

    Meanwhile this is ok:




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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Oh, by the way -- my right to "object" to anything is not trumped by any airline security concern.
    I would agree with this. You certainly may object. And if you used a more reasonable approach, I might agree with you.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No, you keep INSISTING that you don't have "the right" to fly. You even put it in bold.

    So, perhaps you should explain exactly what you mean by "the right to fly," and why, in your estimation, we don't have it.
    We have no Constitutional right to fly sans whatever regulations and conditions are put in place surrounding that flight. I have a right to go into a restaurant any time I want to, unless I'm barefoot and the restaurant says no. I have a right to enter an airport terminal building. I don't have the right to get on an airline unless I follow whatever regulations and conditions are put in place. If I'm drunk, I lose that right. If I refuse to follow regulations and conditions to get me past the checkpoint, I lose that right.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Yeah, right. Security protocols like this would not offend you, eh?

    Airport staff 'exposed woman's breasts, laughed'
    There are jerks everywhere, in every profession, in every corner of the world. To say this is "typical behavior" is just plain reeedickalus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Oh, by the way -- my right to "object" to anything is not trumped by any airline security concern.
    What didn't you understand about my Post #274?

    Just let me make this clear. I think you have every right in the whole wide world to object vociferously to current security screening procedures.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I would agree with this. You certainly may object. And if you used a more reasonable approach, I might agree with you.
    What disingenuous horse****.

    You won't agree with me because you think this is fine. That isn't going to change.

    What actually mean is, you'll agree with ME if I'm "more reasonable" and agree with YOU.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    What didn't you understand about my Post #274?
    Probably your self-contradiction in your to post to which I was referring.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    What disingenuous horse****.

    You won't agree with me because you think this is fine. That isn't going to change.

    What actually mean is, you'll agree with ME if I'm "more reasonable" and agree with YOU.

    I do think it is fine, but I linked a video and argument different than yours that was more reasonable earlier. It related specific to children and their difficulties. By treating everyone as a them and not addressing actual arguments, you lose any chance of actually finding common ground.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    We have no Constitutional right to fly sans whatever regulations and conditions are put in place surrounding that flight.
    It doesn't work like that.

    I don't need the Constitution to expressly permit anything I want to do.

    The government needs to justify its intrusion to me, not the other way around.


    I have a right to go into a restaurant any time I want to, unless I'm barefoot and the restaurant says no.
    That's between you and the restaurant owner. The government has nothing to do with it.

    I have a right to enter an airport terminal building. I don't have the right to get on an airline unless I follow whatever regulations and conditions are put in place. If I'm drunk, I lose that right. If I refuse to follow regulations and conditions to get me past the checkpoint, I lose that right.
    Which the government needs to justify doing.
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