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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Air travel is as vital to the modern economy as telephones, parcel delivery, and just about anything else you can think of. Why they'd be so ambivalent -- and SNIDE -- about killing, or at least seriously harming, the industry just baffles me.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Air travel is as vital to the modern economy as telephones, parcel delivery, and just about anything else you can think of. Why they'd be so ambivalent -- and SNIDE -- about killing, or at least seriously harming, the industry just baffles me.
    It's all about enforcing their authority. Same story with drug laws. You will respect the state, peon.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I guess if you don't like wiretaps, you don't have to use the phone, 'coz no one has the right to use a telephone.
    Excellent analogy!!

    We clearly have a number of people here who are willing to surrender their 4th Amendment rights in return for the perception of a little security. One can only wish them well.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Excellent analogy!!

    We clearly have a number of people here who are willing to surrender their 4th Amendment rights in return for the perception of a little security. One can only wish them well.
    I couldn't care less if others would surrender their rights. The part that pisses me off is those people surrendering my rights, then having the audacity to turn around and berate me for objecting to it. **** that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    It's all about enforcing their authority. Same story with drug laws. You will respect the state, peon.
    They're clueless bunglers who think they're smarter than everyone else -- and yes, they do have a Napoleon complex. This is going to have wide-reaching consequences in ways their narrow minds can't conceive.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    You avoided my question. I'm not surprised.
    You asked several silly questions. I answered one. Which other one must I address?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Perhaps your definition of fondling is different from mine. However, I consider it inappropriate for a glorified security guard to touch or even go near my crotch. You are aware that this is what they do now, right?
    Yes, I'm aware of that. IF I've chosen to go through the body scanner. And IF I've refused.

    I don't think anyone is arguing that. I would say, however, that the success of the airlines relies on how many passengers they get. If enough people are turned off by these new security protocols and don't fly, they will only suffer in the long run. I think eventually they will go back to reasonable security protocols when they see the backlash that this causes.
    I agree with you. I say, "Vote with your feet."

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    It will be interesting to see who opposes this.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Wrong. The odds are 100% that she will be manually searched if she doesn't want to go through the Federal Nudie Booth. And it's a lot more than just a "patdown" now.
    That's true. Does calling it the Federal Nudie Booth turn you on?

    Who cares? You're OK with someone feeling up kids as long as they aren't turned on by it?
    They are NOT "feeling up."

    Hopefully parents tell their kids to scream as loudly as they can and/or make a big scene if the TSA people do anything more than a standard pat-down. And I hope they get it on video and send it to their local TV station.
    Now that's the way to get change!! I'm all for it. But unless and until the system changes, quitcher gripin' and, for God's sake, move along.

    So you're OK with the government spying on people at libraries since they don't have a right to be in a library? You're OK with implementing Federal Nudie Booths at the entrance to all shopping malls, since you don't have a right to be there? You're OK with federal agents installing a GPS tracker on your automobile, since you don't have a right to drive?
    Not worth a reply. I do think, though, that the idea of Federal Nudie Booths must turn you on...
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Air travel is as vital to the modern economy as telephones, parcel delivery, and just about anything else you can think of. Why they'd be so ambivalent -- and SNIDE -- about killing, or at least seriously harming, the industry just baffles me.
    No industry has been killed. Again, it is about hyperbolic overexaggeration.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post

    I agree with you. I say, "Vote with your feet."



    I take it by this wave you oppose the bill which removes exemptions from this search for federal employees?

    Tell me -- on what grounds do you oppose it?
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    You asked several silly questions. I answered one. Which other one must I address?
    This one:
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    Please explain to me exactly how a person travels across the Pacific in a timely manner without being forced to "freakin' fly". Thanks in advance.
    "Not going" is not an answer; it is avoidance.

    Try again.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No industry has been killed. Again, it is about hyperbolic overexaggeration.
    Didn't say it had been. Saying it will be, or at least seriously harmed as long as this continues. When people take the advice of "don't like it? Don't fly!" it will happen. Denying this is just . . . stupid.

    And if it's "hyperbolic exaggeration" to speculate along these lines, tell me -- what harm have the wiretaps wrought? What libraries have been raided? You oppose those, so surely you can point to some real harm done by them and not just fear.
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