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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Got it. Your double-standard is noted.
    You calling it a double standard doesn't make it one. Like too many you don't see actual differences in things and treat all things as if everything was the same. They are not and you're factually wrong.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    First, the odds of your daughter being patted down are slim to none on any particular flight.
    Wrong. The odds are 100% that she will be manually searched if she doesn't want to go through the Federal Nudie Booth. And it's a lot more than just a "patdown" now.

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    Second, these pat downs are not done by pedophiles, for heaven's sake.
    Who cares? You're OK with someone feeling up kids as long as they aren't turned on by it?

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    Third, however you characterize this to your daughter is egzakly how she's going to react. "Standard procedure"? "Groping and Fondling"? Which is it?
    Hopefully parents tell their kids to scream as loudly as they can and/or make a big scene if the TSA people do anything more than a standard pat-down. And I hope they get it on video and send it to their local TV station.

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    Yes! Of course you have the right to protest this invasive procedure. What you don't have is a right to fly.
    So you're OK with the government spying on people at libraries since they don't have a right to be in a library? You're OK with implementing Federal Nudie Booths at the entrance to all shopping malls, since you don't have a right to be there? You're OK with federal agents installing a GPS tracker on your automobile, since you don't have a right to drive?

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    This discussion has, as usual, taken off into the wild blue yonder.
    Yes it has. Mostly facilitated by you and Boo Radley.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Yes it has. Mostly facilitated by you and Boo Radley.


    I never knew disagreement was such.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You calling it a double standard doesn't make it one. Like too many you don't see actual differences in things and treat all things as if everything was the same. They are not and you're factually wrong.
    Your failure to be able to connect the dots doesn't make your opinion more valid.

    Both the Patriot Act and the security procedures of the TSA give the government the ability to infringe upon areas of citizen's rights that they should have no business being involved in. Both are justified using the argument of "National Security."

    Using your own quote:
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    The partriot act gives too much power to people doing nothing more than being at home or going to work. People at the airport are getting on a plane were something did go wrong, have had a problem, and people have tried to smuggle something on to. A real difference.
    The current invasive airport security procedures are directed at people doing nothing more than going home or being at work. To borrow from the history of another country, the IRA have proved countless times that a terrorist organization doesn't need an airplane to detonate an explosive. A car bomb in the right place does the trick just as well. You more chance of being blown up or shot at your local coffee shop than you do of being killed on a flight in mid-air. The only difference is one you've fabricated to justify your position.

    Are you ok being felt up or scanned as you walk in to Starbucks? It's for your security, you know.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    I have a question.

    Who is funding these checks? The airports? I mean, can't you simply go to another airport where the people there don't feel you up?


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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Your failure to be able to connect the dots doesn't make your opinion more valid.

    Both the Patriot Act and the security procedures of the TSA give the government the ability to infringe upon areas of citizen's rights that they should have no business being involved in. Both are justified using the argument of "National Security."
    Not it the same way they don't. Different things treated differently is not a double standard. People are seeking to get on a public transportation that HAS been use in a terrorist activity, where weapons and exposives HAVE either made it on board or been attempted. This is different than minning phone calls which does more to mask patterns than expose actual terrorist. It is actively going into a private ara and not meeting someone in a public areana engaged in a public activity.

    Again, different things should be treated differently.


    The current invasive airport security procedures are directed at people doing nothing more than going home or being at work. To borrow from the history of another country, the IRA have proved countless times that a terrorist organization doesn't need an airplane to detonate an explosive. A car bomb in the right place does the trick just as well. You more chance of being blown up or shot at your local coffee shop than you do of being killed on a flight in mid-air. The only difference is one you've fabricated to justify your position.

    Are you ok being felt up or scanned as you walk in to Starbucks? It's for your security, you know.
    Going on a public tranport that hasa seen wepaons and explosives either bought on bioard or attempted to bring on board. Again different.

    And no one is being felt up. Ask some one to search you. Then ask someone to feel you up. I think you will see a real difference.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I have a question.

    Who is funding these checks? The airports? I mean, can't you simply go to another airport where the people there don't feel you up?

    It's TSA, not the airports.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    It's TSA, not the airports.
    No, I mean who funds the security. The airports right or is it the State?
    Last edited by Laila; 11-18-10 at 12:03 PM.


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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    No, I mean who funds the security. The airports right or is it the State?
    tsa is the gov't. and most cities don't have multiple airports, so we're stuck.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    No, I mean who funds the security. The airports right or is it the State?
    It's federal. But it doesn't matter who funds it; it's a TSA check, not something done by individual airports. You can't just wander off to another airport. This isn't a free market/competition thing.
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