Page 23 of 88 FirstFirst ... 1321222324253373 ... LastLast
Results 221 to 230 of 879

Thread: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

  1. #221
    Filmmaker Lawyer Patriot
    Harshaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:23 PM
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    29,607

    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I see the rationale. Nothing bad ever happens at home or work. It's always on those darn airplanes.
    And, you know, terrorists never use telephones to contact their people within the US. Nor do they fund them through electronic transfers.
    “Offing those rich pigs with their own forks and knives, and then eating a meal in the same room, far out! The Weathermen dig Charles Manson.”-- Bernadine Dohrn

  2. #222
    Filmmaker Lawyer Patriot
    Harshaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:23 PM
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    29,607

    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, that would not be my reasoning. Only pointing out that just because a few complain, that also doesn't mean it is wrong.






    Would it be right or less right either way? It was wrong then and is wrong now. Agian, not a partisan thing.








    Certainly try not to. Yourself?
    You keep telling yourself that, I guess.
    “Offing those rich pigs with their own forks and knives, and then eating a meal in the same room, far out! The Weathermen dig Charles Manson.”-- Bernadine Dohrn

  3. #223
    Sage
    Boo Radley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Seen
    11-22-17 @ 04:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    36,858

    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I see the rationale. Nothing bad ever happens at home or work. It's always on those darn airplanes.
    Again, not the rationale. Think about it a little more.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

  4. #224
    Sage


    MaggieD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Chicago Area
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    43,243
    Blog Entries
    43

    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    So I either let some TSA flunky grope my preschooler or let one ogle her naked, or just simply deny her the opportunity to see half of her family until the good folks in D.C. pull their heads out of their asses?

    How about if I stand up for my right to not be treated like a convicted felon without having had the benefit of due process just because the government is afraid? Is that okay with you?
    To characterize TSA pat-downs as fondling is hyperbole-and-a-half. First, the odds of your daughter being patted down are slim to none on any particular flight. Second, these pat downs are not done by pedophiles, for heaven's sake. Third, however you characterize this to your daughter is egzakly how she's going to react. "Standard procedure"? "Groping and Fondling"? Which is it?

    Yes! Of course you have the right to protest this invasive procedure. What you don't have is a right to fly.

    This discussion has, as usual, taken off into the wild blue yonder.
    The devil whispered in my ear, "You cannot withstand the storm." I whispered back, "I am ​the storm."

  5. #225
    Filmmaker Lawyer Patriot
    Harshaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:23 PM
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    29,607

    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    To characterize TSA pat-downs as fondling is hyperbole-and-a-half. First, the odds of your daughter being patted down are slim to none on any particular flight. Second, these pat downs are not done by pedophiles, for heaven's sake. Third, however you characterize this to your daughter is egzakly how she's going to react. "Standard procedure"? "Groping and Fondling"? Which is it?

    Yes! Of course you have the right to protest this invasive procedure. What you don't have is a right to fly.

    This discussion has, as usual, taken off into the wild blue yonder.
    Yes, we get it, Maggie:



    I guess if you don't like wiretaps, you don't have to use the phone, 'coz no one has the right to use a telephone.
    “Offing those rich pigs with their own forks and knives, and then eating a meal in the same room, far out! The Weathermen dig Charles Manson.”-- Bernadine Dohrn

  6. #226
    Voluntary Resignation

    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Seen
    11-30-10 @ 05:20 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    7,059

    Thumbs up Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Interesting bill regarding TSA was just introduced this morning.
    111th CONGRESS
    2d Session
    H. R. 6416


    To ensure that certain Federal employees cannot hide behind immunity.

    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

    November 17, 2010

    Mr. Paul introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

    A BILL

    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

    SECTION 1. Short title.

    This Act may be cited as the “American Traveller Dignity Act of 2010”.

    SEC. 2. No immunity for certain airport screening methods.

    No law of the United States shall be construed to confer any immunity for a Federal employee or agency or any individual or entity that receives Federal funds, who subjects an individual to any physical contact (including contact with any clothing the individual is wearing), x-rays, or millimeter waves, or aids in the creation of or views a representation of any part of a individual’s body covered by clothing as a condition for such individual to be in an airport or to fly in an aircraft. The preceding sentence shall apply even if the individual or the individual’s parent, guardian, or any other individual gives consent.
    I'll be on the phone to my representative to see that he cosponsors this.

  7. #227
    Voluntary Resignation

    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Seen
    11-30-10 @ 05:20 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    7,059

    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    To characterize TSA pat-downs as fondling is hyperbole-and-a-half. First, the odds of your daughter being patted down are slim to none on any particular flight. Second, these pat downs are not done by pedophiles, for heaven's sake. Third, however you characterize this to your daughter is egzakly how she's going to react. "Standard procedure"? "Groping and Fondling"? Which is it?

    Yes! Of course you have the right to protest this invasive procedure. What you don't have is a right to fly.

    This discussion has, as usual, taken off into the wild blue yonder.
    You avoided my question. I'm not surprised.

  8. #228
    Androgyne
    Dr_Patrick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Montana
    Last Seen
    12-16-15 @ 11:50 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    9,349
    Blog Entries
    7

    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    To characterize TSA pat-downs as fondling is hyperbole-and-a-half. First, the odds of your daughter being patted down are slim to none on any particular flight. Second, these pat downs are not done by pedophiles, for heaven's sake. Third, however you characterize this to your daughter is egzakly how she's going to react. "Standard procedure"? "Groping and Fondling"? Which is it?
    Perhaps your definition of fondling is different from mine. However, I consider it inappropriate for a glorified security guard to touch or even go near my crotch. You are aware that this is what they do now, right?

    Yes! Of course you have the right to protest this invasive procedure. What you don't have is a right to fly.
    I don't think anyone is arguing that. I would say, however, that the success of the airlines relies on how many passengers they get. If enough people are turned off by these new security protocols and don't fly, they will only suffer in the long run. I think eventually they will go back to reasonable security protocols when they see the backlash that this causes.

  9. #229
    Filmmaker Lawyer Patriot
    Harshaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:23 PM
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    29,607

    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Interesting bill regarding TSA was just introduced this morning.I'll be on the phone to my representative to see that he cosponsors this.
    It will be interesting to see who opposes this.
    “Offing those rich pigs with their own forks and knives, and then eating a meal in the same room, far out! The Weathermen dig Charles Manson.”-- Bernadine Dohrn

  10. #230
    Can't stop the signal...
    theangryamerican's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    The Wild West
    Last Seen
    07-29-13 @ 11:50 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    2,233

    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No I don't, because it isn't the same thing. The partriot act gives too much power to people doing nothing more than being at home or going to work. People at the airport are getting on a plane were something did go wrong, have had a problem, and people have tried to smuggle something on to. A real difference.
    Got it. Your double-standard is noted.
    "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it; no constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it." - Judge Learned Hand

Page 23 of 88 FirstFirst ... 1321222324253373 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •