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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Seems to me, that you don't want any kind of security in place.
    Where did you get anything close to that?

    I'm fine with standard metal detector screenings. I don't think that you need scanners, fondling and/or body cavity searches.

    There are risks involved in flying....be it mechanical or terrorism. You can't live your life in fear (which is what the terrorists want us to do).

    Reasonable security procedures are fine. However, we are allowing the terrorists to dictate how we live our lives....and that is wrong.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    The other thing about this incident is that the man DID agree to the patdown. The trouble began when the cop wannabe TSA rent a cop didn't like his statement "If you touch my junk, I'm going to have you arrested".

    What is wrong with that? He was saying...fine go ahead and pat me down, but don't grope me or touch me inappropriately. Because he said that, the TSA rent a cop called over the supervisor and the whole situation turned into a fiasco.

    The guys was absolutely correct in what he did.....and I would love to see them try to bring a case against him. I don't know a jury out there that wouldn't find in his favor.
    Thank God for modern technology....and it was all caught on tape.
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    This only provides support for what I've already said... the guy will never get a $11,000 fine. He will probably never be sued. The TSA oaf was only trying to scare him.
    http://www.tsa.gov/assets/pdf/enforc...nce_policy.pdf


    Here's what you have to carry through security to get that $11,000 fine:
    Blasting Caps; Dynamite; Hand grenades; Plastic explosives; TNT

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    TSA officers are designated as Law Enforcement Officers while engaging in their TSA responsibilities. They have the power to arrest without a warrant. http://www.tsa.gov/assets/pdf/Aviati...w_107_1771.pdf
    The law says:
    "The Under Secretary may designate an employee of the Transportation Security Administration to serve as a law enforcement officer."

    The TSA screeners at the gates are not officers. They can't detain you. They can't arrest you. They can't touch you without your permission. Again, that's why they have real cops on hand.

    Most TSA Law Enforcement Officers are Air Marshals.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    This guy certainly did interfere and slow the process for every single traveler behind him.
    He refused a pat down. He was pulled to the side and the line continued to move. No big deal.

    Here's "slowing the process":
    Shut down terminal for six hours
    Stranded 16,000 passengers
    Delayed 100 flights
    Cancelled 27
    Fine: $658

    Now if all of that is worth only $658, this guy owes TSA about 10 cents at most.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

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    How do you know I'm not?
    And when a certain segment is responsible for heinous crimes against humanity, they should be profiled. Don't like it? Too bad... fight against those that cause the problems.

    .
    Hitler would be proud.

    Racial profiling doesn't work. What "segment" are you referring to since the terrorists have all come from different racial backgrounds.

    You know the terrorists have won when you throw away your values and beliefs because they make you quiver in fear.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    This only provides support for what I've already said... the guy will never get a $11,000 fine. He will probably never be sued. The TSA oaf was only trying to scare him.
    http://www.tsa.gov/assets/pdf/enforc...nce_policy.pdf


    Here's what you have to carry through security to get that $11,000 fine:
    Blasting Caps; Dynamite; Hand grenades; Plastic explosives; TNT


    The law says:
    "The Under Secretary may designate an employee of the Transportation Security Administration to serve as a law enforcement officer."

    The TSA screeners at the gates are not officers. They can't detain you. They can't arrest you. They can't touch you without your permission. Again, that's why they have real cops on hand.

    Most TSA Law Enforcement Officers are Air Marshals.
    The TSA employees are security guard rejects.....sad but true.....I know a couple and couldn't believe they got employed until I looked into the job requirements
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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The TSA employees are security guard rejects.....sad but true.....I know a couple and couldn't believe they got employed until I looked into the job requirements
    If you can't earn respect, maybe you can wear it!

    • TSA is...outfitting frontline employees with new gold badges and royal-blue shirts as part of a broader effort to improve their image.
    • Our research shows that people respect individuals who wear uniforms, and do what they say (I believe it!)
    • "We wanted to have, I don't want to say more authority (yes, you do!), but a more professional look to upgrade our image."
    • "So far, the biggest complaint about the new uniforms has come from real police officers (naturally!), who fear that giving TSA screeners badges might confuse the public into thinking the airport personnel are police officers." (valid concern!)
    Read more: Airport Screeners Dress for Respect - TIME

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Where did you get anything close to that?

    I'm fine with standard metal detector screenings. I don't think that you need scanners, fondling and/or body cavity searches.

    There are risks involved in flying....be it mechanical or terrorism. You can't live your life in fear (which is what the terrorists want us to do).

    Reasonable security procedures are fine. However, we are allowing the terrorists to dictate how we live our lives....and that is wrong.
    That's right. We need to unleash unrestrained violence upon the terrorists and all those who support them and make the terrorist fear us, more than we fear him.

    Oh wait, damn! You don't want to do that, either.

    Gee willikers! What the hell do you wanna do, to defeat the Islamic terrorists? Anything? Give'em a Coke and smile?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Damn double posts!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's right. We need to unleash unrestrained violence upon the terrorists and all those who support them and make the terrorist fear us, more than we fear him.

    Oh wait, damn! You don't want to do that, either.

    Gee willikers! What the hell do you wanna do, to defeat the Islamic terrorists? Anything? Give'em a Coke and smile?
    Well...you certainly don't do it the way that your "heroes" did it....by manipulating the public fear and then shifting the focus from those who actually attacked us to those who didn't. Hmmm....why is it again that you guys thought that was such a great idea?
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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