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    Re: DNA test casts doubt on executed Texas man's guilt

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I have no problem with the idea of the death penalty, I just think we need to be a lot more cautious about handing it out.
    What???

    The judicial system incorporated in the US is not good enough?
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    Re: DNA test casts doubt on executed Texas man's guilt

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    What???

    The judicial system incorporated in the US is not good enough?
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    Re: DNA test casts doubt on executed Texas man's guilt

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    It is the best!.. it is never wrong!.. it works fast, and is 100% colour and money blind!
    Can you point to anyone who has ever said its never wrong or are these nonsensical claims just going to repeat themselves? Not every country can vote for the candidate Al Qeada wants in power under the threat of an attack.
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    Re: DNA test casts doubt on executed Texas man's guilt

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    It is the best!.. it is never wrong!.. it works fast, and is 100% colour and money blind!
    Sure it's not foolproof and can be quite tedious, but the American justice system is one of the best. But even with such a fair judicial system in place, mistakes are still made. This is one of the reasons why I am against the death penalty.
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    Re: DNA test casts doubt on executed Texas man's guilt

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Sure it's not foolproof and can be quite tedious, but the American justice system is one of the best. But even with such a fair judicial system in place, mistakes are still made. This is one of the reasons why I am against the death penalty.
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    Re: DNA test casts doubt on executed Texas man's guilt

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Using such simplistic logic as that, we can find that since Canada abolished the death penalty in 76, their violent crime rates have increased. Obviously, abolishing the death penalty results in more violence.
    The idea of deterrence is usually paired with the homicide rate of any given country when condsidering capital punishment within this context. Not only is the homicide rate (out of 100,000 people) lower in Canada (1.85), it is lower in Europe (1.5) as a whole. The rate in the US is 6.1 The fifteen states that have abolished the death penalty have homicide rates at or below the national average. So using such simplistic logic as this, abolishing the death penalty reduces the homicide rate. Though very inconclusive, there is an idea called the brutalization effect that suggests that in the time surrounding a public execution, meaning the details of the trial are not withheld from the public, homicide rates are higher. There have been a few studies conducted on the matter, but again these should not be entirely trusted. It does however give a different angle from which to look. There are certainly very bitter and strong feelings surrounding a capital punishment trial. It is not so far out to think that these feelings might seep into the general public and cause just one or two people to tip, and make the wrong choice.

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    Re: DNA test casts doubt on executed Texas man's guilt

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Just finished reading a book by the law professor in charge of death-row inmate appeals in Texas. Oddly enough, it seems that the Texas governor cannot issue a stay of execution unless it is initially recommended by the Prisoner Review Board. In Texas, this board never recommends leniency for a capital crime. It appears to be a political quid-pro-quo system. The governor appoints the PRB members, who in turn insulate him from any political/legal fallout concerning stays of execution.
    Yes, this is what Perry did, but he went one step further. He fired every member of the forensic review board, and replaced them with cronies, who then shut down an investigation into wrongful execution, after an innocent man was executed for a murder by arson that he never committed. Perry is a snake.
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