What I meant to convey was that, regardless of the law and policies, basic small team male dynamics will set the rules by which things are OK, or meet resistence. To flaunt one's gayness, especially in the more serious units, will get a low-level but thorough smackdown real quick. In the end, the basic rules will still be the same: either you got my back, in which case I will allow you the honor, or you don't, in which case you will be made to go somewhere else, easy way or the hard way, but you will be able to cover my back or you will not stay here.
Here's the way it is in male Basic. Discussions about whether eating putang is good or not are OK, and often break on racial lines. Discussions about whether it is better to eat putang or suck wang will not happen in the male units. Not for a minute.
Last edited by Eighty Deuce; 11-11-10 at 10:38 PM.
You could make a similar argument about black people wanting to vote, its just cause they want to elect black people just to show they can to whites, and for no other reason besides spite.
Are you ever going to show any facts or evidence to back up what you say?
Lastly, this argument you have about extremists in the service is already happening according to your definition of what is an extremist. Namely the thousands of Muslim service members, you have yourself on many many many occasions called Islam extremist by its very doctrine. Therefore naturally those who follow an extremist doctrine are extremists themselves.
So if you truly believe Muslims are all extremists, than you've invalidated your own ridiculous argument already being allowing Muslims, ie "extremists" in your view, to serve openly has not destroyed the military.
See what I did there?
Last edited by Wiseone; 11-11-10 at 10:41 PM.
A family that trully cares about it's members, supports their decisions, even if they disagree with those decisions.
When my kids come of age and want to join the service, I will support that decision 100%. When they choose not to join the service, because they don't believe that it's for them, then I'll support that decision 100%.
"A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt
Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.
Your typical runt and platoon ****-up is a far greater problem (and has more to fear from his buddies) than does your typical gay man who enlists. It's just not a big deal.
Now, people like MSgt come on and start talking about tight fire teams; everyone needs to listen to those concerns. Romantic feelings can **** up a fire team and get people killed (which is why we shouldn't seek co-ed fireteams).
No, but I think that that is why DADT abolitionists are so atimate about gays serving openly.
Whyelse would they be sooooo opposed to lifting the ban and keeping DADT in place? They're not content with gays just being able to serve in the military, they want it flaunted in everyone's face, that gays are serving in the military.