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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

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    I know his actions, and he publically excused torture. A good person doesn't make excuses for torture.

    While I would certainly criticize Obama for recklessly taking innocent human lives, that is not equal to excusing torture. He would have to stand before us and say that we took those innocent human lives to keep the country safe, and that doing so wasn't wrong. That would be equal to what Bush did.
    Why don't you run for elected office so you can be one of those that believes you can negotiate with radical terrorists that want you dead? Those innocent human lives? Are you really this naive?

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

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    Why don't you run for elected office so you can be one of those that believes you can negotiate with radical terrorists that want you dead? Those innocent human lives? Are you really this naive?
    Another wild leap I see. Try address a claim I actually make.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Another wild leap I see. Try address a claim I actually make.
    Careful, he might post numbers without context again...

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Another wild leap I see. Try address a claim I actually make.
    Why, you never address any issue raised on this or any other issue. You just divert and distort.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why, you never address any issue raised on this or any other issue. You just divert and distort.
    Not true. You ignoring the rebuttal is not same as one not being offered. :coffepap

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I know his actions, and he publically excused torture. A good person doesn't make excuses for torture.

    While I would certainly criticize Obama for recklessly taking innocent human lives, that is not equal to excusing torture. He would have to stand before us and say that we took those innocent human lives to keep the country safe, and that doing so wasn't wrong. That would be equal to what Bush did.
    So extrajudicial executions--no tribunals, no SCOTUS, no gaggle of ACLU lawyers filing motions and briefs, just the mangled bodies of victims, including women and children--is "not equal to torture" as long as Obama keeps his mouth shut and covers it up? All I can say to this is "Wow." No offense, but you really are a hypocrite.
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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    So extrajudicial executions--no tribunals, no SCOTUS, no gaggle of ACLU lawyers filing motions and briefs, just the mangled bodies of victims, including women and children--is "not equal to torture" as long as Obama keeps his mouth shut and covers it up? All I can say to this is "Wow." No offense, but you really are a hypocrite.
    Again, not what I said. Read what I said.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, not what I said. Read what I said.
    My bad. "Not equal to excusing torture." Big improvement.
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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    He would have to stand before us and say that we took those innocent human lives to keep the country safe, and that doing so wasn't wrong. That would be equal to what Bush did.
    so as long as obama doesn't SAY the reason he's wasting women and children in pakistan and yemen is to keep america safe he's a good person?

    LOL!

    why else would he be murdering by drone?

    what an idiot

    obama, i mean

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    My bad. "Not equal to excusing torture." Big improvement.
    More accurate. I can't say Obama is a good person. I certainly fault much of our goovernment for torturing, for killing innocnet people, for wasting the lives of our sons and daughters with good or just cause. But the claim we were discussing was excusing torture. And it wasn't limited to Bush. Poor reading skills have kept too many from actually addressing what has been said. Whether it is Bush or someone on a political discussion form, making excuses for torture or any evil puts real doubt on whether that person is "good" or not.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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