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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Bush was told that Waterboarding wasn't torture and thus he authorized the waterboarding of 3 high valued leaders. Try to stay focused. Obama issued an executive order to make something that was already illegal, illegal? LOL, this really is a joke, right?
    Bush was also told that waterboarding was torture. It was never expressively stated as either legal or illegal... although it was always well know that respected torture councils, other countries, and lawyers considered it torture. You are acting like there was no debate about it before, and you are being dishonest. It was always controversial..

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    The supreme court of the US said they are protected under the GC
    When were those 3 al Qaeda waterboarded?

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Show me some explanation where a person who uses weapons in violent efforts conducted against citizens of a different country is not a combatant, and thus fall under prisoners of war. Rhetoric and bull**** employed by the administration drew that difference, in a highly illegal way.
    I keep asking for the same evidence.. but none will budge

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I doubt there is anything Bush could do right in your world but the reality is you listen to your attorneys and that is what Bush did. Now how about answering the question.

    If waterboarding was illegal why did Obama have to issue an executive order making it illegal?
    Did Bush do anything wrong in your world Conservative? Do you miss him as pres and wish you had him back?

    Bush was a neocon... This entire torture/waterboarding debate is evidence of that.

    Bush did do good things in my world.. for a short time. He was a strong supporter of the first and second amendments and he wasn't Al Gore.. but all that changed when he showed himself as the neocon that he is.

    Stereotyping everybody here for disagreeing with you is really lame and immature. I know that sounds cliche but it's true. You are lame and immature

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

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    Bush did do good things in my world.. for a short time. He was a strong supporter of the first and second amendments and he wasn't Al Gore.. but all that changed when he showed himself as the neocon that he is.

    Stereotyping everybody here for disagreeing with you is really lame and immature.
    Would that include the stereotyping of "Neo-cons"?

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Did Bush do anything wrong in your world Conservative? Do you miss him as pres and wish you had him back?

    Bush was a neocon... This entire torture/waterboarding debate is evidence of that.

    Bush did do good things in my world.. for a short time. He was a strong supporter of the first and second amendments and he wasn't Al Gore.. but all that changed when he showed himself as the neocon that he is.

    Stereotyping everybody here for disagreeing with you is really lame and immature. I know that sounds cliche but it's true. You are lame and immature
    Yes, Bush did some things wrong but I would take him back in a heartbeat over what we have now and the disaster that is in the WH. You see, I get actual verifiable data instead of reacting to opinions and hatred of others.

    GW Bush will be judged by historians not partisans on either side. They will use actual facts and based upon that he will be judged a lot differently than you.

    I really don't think you have a clue what a neocon is but it sounds great because that is what others told you.

    Sorry, but if being lame and immature is confusing you with actual facts and data, so be it. I gladly wear that as a badge of honor.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Originally Posted by Paschendale
    Show me some explanation where a person who uses weapons in violent efforts conducted against citizens of a different country is not a combatant, and thus fall under prisoners of war. Rhetoric and bull**** employed by the administration drew that difference, in a highly illegal way.
    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I keep asking for the same evidence.. but none will budge
    all you have to do is google "geneva convention define POW". combatant =/= POW.

    simply taking up arms does not qualify an individual as a POW. there are specific criteria outlined.
    The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

    An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Bush was a neocon... This entire torture/waterboarding debate is evidence of that.
    then I guess John Kerry and Nancy Pelosi are neocons as well. they both knew about the waterboarding and did nothing to stop it.
    The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
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    It seems they were ignoring the Geneva Conventions. Do you suppose the Revolutionary War should be declared null and void?


    That's probably because, as in the cases under discussion, that you want to be quite certain first that there is knowledge to be extracted. I doubt anyone is prepared to commit torture otherwise.
    Revolutionary isn't null or void.. I have been talking about this for several pages.. Revolution is necessary and justified against an oppressive government. That is the very reason why I find it disturbing that people here think it's ok to torture revolutionaries or anybody fighting an oppressive government, and that it is not in some way a war crime. I am sorry.. but if Great Britian tortured our soldiers in the revolution they would have just appeared as a more oppressive and coercive force than before.

    Oppression isn't justifiable.. oppressive governments shouldn't be protected at all, and I highly doubt the GC would protect them.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I would have thought that you were reading all the posts on this thread and not just mine. The Geneva Convention articles have been posted here so go back and read all the posts, not just mine
    plenty of them have been posted.. this is pathetic

    Why can't you do your own homework

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