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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Have you read the Geneva Convention documents? Please read it and then get back to us. What happens when a soldier is caught in a foreign country during war time and is out of uniform? Does the Geneva Convention cover them?

    Now for the issue of Waterboarding, as has been pointed out, Generals do not make the laws and everyone is entitled to an opinion. If waterboarding was illegal when Bush authorized it, why did Obama have to issue an Executive Order making Waterboarding illegal?
    WTF.. I am asking your to cite your sources. utter BS.

    So why can't you cite the Geneva Convention and sending me one a wild goose hunt.. can you not do it?

    I am betting you don't know where the f it says it in the Conventions, because it's not in it.

    Go ahead and prove me wrong..

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, all of it si water torture.
    Yet this meaning is incorrect: As Wallach has pointed out in an op-ed (Washington Post, 11/4/07), “To be effective, waterboarding is usually real drowning that simulates death.” He elaborated that the victim experiences the sensations of drowning: struggle, panic, breath-holding, swallowing, vomiting, taking water into the lungs and, eventually, the same feeling of not being able to breathe that one experiences after being punched in the gut. The main difference is that the drowning process is halted.

    Malcolm Nance, a former instructor at the U.S. Navy’s Advanced Terrorism, Abduction and Hostage Survival program who has taught American service members what to expect under torture, concurred with this assessment of “waterboarding” in an interview with Extra!: “There is nothing simulated about it.”

    U.S. Justice Department legal counsel John Yoo’s 2003 memo, which provided a legal justification for the use of “waterboarding,” has deservedly been rebuked by the media for having “redefined torture to justify repugnant, clearly illegal acts,” as one New York Times editorial (4/4/08) put it. Unfortunately, the same can be said of much of the news reporting on “waterboarding.”

    From Water Torture to ‘Waterboarding’

    A Visual History of Water-Based Tortures | waterboarding.org

    PolitiFact | History supports McCain's stance on waterboarding
    So what is your bottomline, you want President Bush prosecuted for waterboarding three high value al Qaeda operatives one of whom orchestrated 9/11? Liberals like you never take a stand and just argue to argue and want to destroy anyone that disagrees with you. You just cannot admit that you are wrong on any issue.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    A police officer can let you go and not give a ticket.
    you're comparing TORTURE to running a stop sign?

    LOL!

    i hope doj issued president bush a WARNING before letting him drive home free

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why do you continue to buy the rhetoric of leftwingers with an agenda. Amnesia International should have more to deal with than 3 high value al Qaeda animals that were interrogated at GITMO. How about the human shields that al Qaeda uses, how about the cutting off of heads, how about flying planes into buildings killing innocent civilians, how about strapping bombs on their backs and blowing up market places?

    There is plenty of evidence on both sides regarding Waterboarding, the question is why do you buy the left's version and not the right? Why is there such passion for this issue if not just pure hatred for President Bush, all based upon ignorance?
    You're lecturing somebody on ignorance and you can't even post on source that I asked for for several pages... golden.

    How much do you really know about the Geneva Conventions and aren't just spouting off talking points yourself?

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

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    So would you argue that the solders who fought in our revolution weren't combatants? They wore plain clothes, and didn't identify themselves openly.
    It seems they were ignoring the Geneva Conventions. Do you suppose the Revolutionary War should be declared null and void?
    I have yet to hear any of these torture proponents stand up and say "I am willing to torture people who MAY be guilty of a crime in order to extract information."
    That's probably because, as in the cases under discussion, that you want to be quite certain first that there is knowledge to be extracted. I doubt anyone is prepared to commit torture otherwise.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    Except for the tiny detail that the guys detained at GITMO, according to the GC's definition, are not POWs and therefore do not fall under the protection of the GC.

    Not saying that this makes it OK to "torture" them. You just can't use the GC to argue that such "torture" is illegal. simply that the framers did not have terrorist insurgents in mind when the GC was written.
    The supreme court of the US said they are protected under the GC

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So what is your bottomline, you want President Bush prosecuted for waterboarding three high value al Qaeda operatives one of whom orchestrated 9/11? Liberals like you never take a stand and just argue to argue and want to destroy anyone that disagrees with you. You just cannot admit that you are wrong on any issue.
    We should also keep in mind that it was the terrorists choice to be waterboarded. They could have talked first and kept themselves dry.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    You're lecturing somebody on ignorance and you can't even post on source that I asked for for several pages... golden.

    How much do you really know about the Geneva Conventions and aren't just spouting off talking points yourself?
    I would have thought that you were reading all the posts on this thread and not just mine. The Geneva Convention articles have been posted here so go back and read all the posts, not just mine

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    This was a civilian. Do you not see the difference?
    NO. it was torture, pure and simple. why in the world do you condone torture? why does it matter who it's performed on?
    Last edited by liblady; 11-15-10 at 05:04 PM.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    NO. it was torture, pure and simple. why in the world do you condone torture? why does it matter who it's performed on?
    What do you want done with President Bush?

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