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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Bush was told that Waterboarding wasn't torture and thus he authorized the waterboarding of 3 high valued leaders. Try to stay focused. Obama issued an executive order to make something that was already illegal, illegal? LOL, this really is a joke, right?
    Yes, sometimes officials of the government make rules that are actually illegal. Consider every time a law has been overturned by the court as being unconstitutional. There are plenty of things that are made legal that violate existing laws. Making waterboarding legal violates existing laws against torture. And yes, it takes an official act to clear that up. Do you understand that, or are you still confused?
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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    LOL@ your question seriously.

    I don't know why some of you keep pounding me with questions that have obvious common sense answers. You do realize that everybody has a right to trial, but if they are being a threat and using lethal violence and putting others in danger.. police, other officials, or even civilians are in the right to use lethal force against them. It's pretty cut and dry, simple thing to understand.

    Now wtf does this have to do with holding people prisoner in gitmo for conspiracy to commit a terrorist act for years, and not giving them a trial?
    I don't know why you keep trying to pretend this can be handled as a law enforcement action.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Either they're enemy combatants and are thus prisoners of war, or the war is an which they're being taken prisoner in is an illegal war. Bush is a war criminal either way. Show me some explanation where a person who uses weapons in violent efforts conducted against citizens of a different country is not a combatant, and thus fall under prisoners of war. Rhetoric and bull**** employed by the administration drew that difference, in a highly illegal way.
    Absolutely amazing, we are 9 years after the attack of 9/11 and 8 years after the authorization for the war in Iraq and you and others still cannot get over it. I had three family members serve in Iraq, what is your experience? Do you even know what the authorization that passed a Demcrat controlled Senate even said? With all the problems facing this country today with this empty suit in the WH this is all liberals and Amnesia International are worried about. This is a sickness, seek some help.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

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    I had three family members serve in Iraq, what is your experience?
    I bet they're giddy with delight that you are using their service to attempt to score meaningless points on a message board. Nothing like using the sacrifice of kin as a political football.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

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    Absolutely amazing, we are 9 years after the attack of 9/11 and 8 years after the authorization for the war in Iraq and you and others still cannot get over it. I had three family members serve in Iraq, what is your experience? Do you even know what the authorization that passed a Demcrat controlled Senate even said? With all the problems facing this country today with this empty suit in the WH this is all liberals and Amnesia International are worried about. This is a sickness, seek some help.

    Uhmm no it is not all people are worried nor Amensty International. However it is what thread is about. If you have other concerns such as economics healthcare or what ever there are plenty of other threads to post in as you well know.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Yes, sometimes officials of the government make rules that are actually illegal. Consider every time a law has been overturned by the court as being unconstitutional. There are plenty of things that are made legal that violate existing laws. Making waterboarding legal violates existing laws against torture. And yes, it takes an official act to clear that up. Do you understand that, or are you still confused?
    I am confused as to why this is an issue 8 years after the Democrat Controlled Senate gave 22 reasons for removing Saddam Hussein and how Bush was demonized for not preventing 9/11 but now is demonized for preventing another. You call waterboarding illegal yet Obama obviously didn't believe it was illegal as he issued an executive order making it illegal. You people relly need to get over your Bush Derangement Syndrome.

    I keep wondering why the double standards on the part of you and others like you.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Either they're enemy combatants and are thus prisoners of war, or the war is an which they're being taken prisoner in is an illegal war. Bush is a war criminal either way. Show me some explanation where a person who uses weapons in violent efforts conducted against citizens of a different country is not a combatant, and thus fall under prisoners of war. Rhetoric and bull**** employed by the administration drew that difference, in a highly illegal way.
    That's not true. Geneva Convention identiies combatants very specifically:

    Art 4. A. Prisoners of war, in the sense of the present Convention, are persons belonging to one of the following categories, who have fallen into the power of the enemy:
    (1) Members of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict, as well as members of militias or volunteer corps forming part of such armed forces.
    (2) Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including those of organized resistance movements, belonging to a Party to the conflict and operating in or outside their own territory, even if this territory is occupied, provided that such militias or volunteer corps, including such organized resistance movements, fulfill the following conditions:

    (a) that of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates;
    (b) that of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance;
    (c) that of carrying arms openly;
    (d) that of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war.
    Suicide bombers don't qualify. People masquerading as civilians don't qualify. People in uniform qualify.
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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I bet they're giddy with delight that you are using their service to attempt to score meaningless points on a message board. Nothing like using the sacrifice of kin as a political football.
    Using the sacrifices of my kin make me more credible on the issue than apparently you are when the reality is you don't really care about anything other than destroying President Bush. You don't care about our military, you don't care about anything other than your own personal agenda. GW Bush did nothing wrong and as a conservative I find it interesting that I seem to care more about keeping you alive than you do.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Using the sacrifices of my kin make me more credible on the issue than apparently you are when the reality is you don't really care about anything other than destroying President Bush. You don't care about our military, you don't care about anything other than your own personal agenda. GW Bush did nothing wrong and as a conservative I find it interesting that I seem to care more about keeping you alive than you do.
    Do you have any more nonsensical, unfounded assumptions to make about me today? I'm starting to lose count, and it's only 1 PM.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Absolutely amazing, we are 9 years after the attack of 9/11 and 8 years after the authorization for the war in Iraq and you and others still cannot get over it. I had three family members serve in Iraq, what is your experience? Do you even know what the authorization that passed a Demcrat controlled Senate even said? With all the problems facing this country today with this empty suit in the WH this is all liberals and Amnesia International are worried about. This is a sickness, seek some help.
    the sickness here is that you believe your family members serving in iraq gives you some sort of magical power to proclaim what is and what is not torture. many of us had family members or friends in iraq or afghanistan, for that matter, vietnam, or ww2. so what?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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