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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I don't "feel" anything.
    Even when I do THIS.......
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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I don't feel that Coronado feels that Deuce is speaking for the entire left so much as I feel that Coronodo feels that Deuce feels he is doing so.

    At least that's what I feel.

    I feel dizzy now
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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Even when I do THIS.......
    Easy there, not without taking me to dinner. I'm not that kind of girl!

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I feel dizzy now
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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    You're right, an action either meets the definition of torture or it doesn't. But when you say "it is either torture or it isn't," if by "it" you mean "water-boarding" you are fantastically incorrect. An action must meet the definition of torture to be considered the war crime of torture.

    An act being severely painful isn't enough to make it torture. Is a dentist appointment torture? Of course not, because you go to the dentist and give your consent, and moreover it isn't for interrogation purposes.

    An act has to occur under certain circumstances, such as with lack of consent and for interrogation purposes. Water-boarding performed on detainees for interrogation purposes without consent is torture, and water-boarding performed on consenting trainees for training purposes is not torture.


    I don't really see what's so hard about this to understand. We've been over this same point many, many times already.
    Sure we've been over this several times, and you continue to be wrong.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Easy there, not without taking me to dinner. I'm not that kind of girl!
    But who has time to eat when I have such etchings to show you?
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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    If we've reached a point where the leader of the free world can be put on trial for "war crimes" because three guys got water poured on their faces, then we are a very, very unserious people who have no concept of what it takes to win an existential war. If we're ever again pressed for our survival, I can't help but doubt our chances.
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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    We should never let Amnesty International or any other international "authority" try any American President for anything, nor even any American soldier. To do so is a surrender of our sovereignty. (That's what happens to you when you LOSE the war, btw.)
    I disagree. There are plenty of occasions where it is correct and even desirable for a state to cede sovereignty, or at least a portion of sovereignty, to another entity. It is not only after losing a war, nor does it happen after all wars are lost. The 13 colonies ceded a good bit of their sovereignty to the federal government when this country was founded, and that worked out pretty well.

    And more to the point, willingly trying American war criminals in America would be preferable, I agree. But the appropriate venue really is the Hague, so why not?
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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I don't "feel" anything. I'm just responding to your implication that he is.
    I'm quite a straightforward person, Coronado, and don't tend to 'imply' anything. If i felt he was speaking for the entire left I would have said so.

    But the implication, if you want one, was towards those of the left who "hate" George Bush. That should have been clear.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I'm quite a straightforward person, Coronado, and don't tend to 'imply' anything. If i felt he was speaking for the entire left I would have said so.

    But the implication, if you want one, was towards those of the left who "hate" George Bush. That should have been clear.
    Whatever you say, champ.

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