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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't think "folks" think that. Some who want to believe anything do, and would even if he were aquitted. And remember, both have leaverage here. Just keeping it going is a problem. Again, settlement alone simply isn't proof in and of itself.



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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    But it is in policework, a clue, you prolly don't want him around your daughters.
    I'll definitely concede that point.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    But it is in policework, a clue, you prolly don't want him around your daughters.
    He doesn't have to be a rapist for that to be true.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

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    They? Is that a myical they? Or do you have specific they in mind?
    Of course I have a "they". Read the post!

    1)Clinton did commit prejury. Most wouldf argue it was a question he shouldn't have been asked, and he should have said none of your damn business, but it was perjury.
    Ok, just to be clear. Clinton did commit perjury. Thus he is a convicted liar and a disgrace to the Presidency, right?
    2) There is plenty of evidence of lying on Bush's part, just no conviction as no has pressed charges. Unwillingness to hear evidence is not equal to there being no evidence.
    Well let's hear what those lies are, a rather harsh accusation, and perhaps the Left can send him to Europe to be tried..

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Of course I have a "they". Read the post!
    I think it is another overgeneralization. I would like you to be more specific.



    Ok, just to be clear. Clinton did commit perjury. Thus he is a convicted liar and a disgrace to the Presidency, right?
    He committed perjury. That's factual and objective. A disgrace is a subjective term.


    Well let's hear what those lies are, a rather harsh accusation, and perhaps the Left can send him to Europe to be tried..

    In your dreams.
    Facts are sometimes harsh I suppose, but facts all the same.

    The intel did not support Saddam was growing or gathering. Or that he had stockpiles of wmds. the intel supported that he likley had some left over wmd. Most of what the president use as support was doubted by the CIA, using coersed testimony by al Libi (linked around here somewhere), Curveball and Chalibi and his heroes in error. Not expressing those doubts is a lie of ommission. Anyway you look at it, the intel did not support what bush was saying. If he states something not supported, that is lying.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    These people don't care, it is all about "getting" Bush. Notice not a word on the fact that Terrorists aren't covered by the Geneva Convention. Notice that not a word about Obama signing an Executive Order making Waterboarding illegal which means it wasn't illegal before. Notice that not a word about the drone strikes by Obama on civilians in Pakistan. The double standard and ignorance of those with BDS is quite telling.
    Not agreeing with a legal technicality that legalizes torture is the double standard?

    Done to Americans? Crime worthy of death!
    Done to suspected terrorists? Oh, no biggy.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    They? Is that a myical they? Or do you have specific they in mind?

    Two points:

    1) Clinton did commit prejury. Most wouldf argue it was a question he shouldn't have been asked, and he should have said none of your damn business, but it was perjury.

    2) There is plenty of evidence of lying on Bush's part, just no conviction as no has pressed charges. Unwillingness to hear evidence is not equal to there being no evidence.

    How about you put up the evidence with the "Bush lied" mantra that has been the whining of the left for the last 7-8 years. Otherwise, don't tell us "there's plenty of evidence" cause all we hear is the hypocritical whining of the left.

    Note in advance that you need to know first what a "lie" is, and second that we can likely quote Bill Clinton and a bunch of Dems saying the same damn thing before GB was President.

    So "Put up or shut up" for chrissakes. Otherwise, its just more liberal whine, and that got old a few years back.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Not agreeing with a legal technicality that legalizes torture is the double standard?

    Done to Americans? Crime worthy of death!
    Done to suspected terrorists? Oh, no biggy.
    No one has proven that terrorists are covered under the Geneva Convention nor have they proven that GW Bush violated any law. Obama signed an executive order making waterboarding illegal and since Bush was President BEFORE Obama that must mean that Waterboarding wasn't a violation of the law when Bush authorized the three al Qaeda leaders.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Not agreeing with a legal technicality that legalizes torture is the double standard?

    Done to Americans? Crime worthy of death!
    Done to suspected terrorists? Oh, no biggy.
    Perhaps the words of Benjamin Franklin can help you:

    “We must hang together or assuredly we shall hang separately”
    We lose the Revolutionary War, and they are traitors. But we didn't, so they are Founding Fathers. Amazing how that works, eh

    Or how about this:

    Possession is 9/10ths of the Law
    Or how about just understanding that we do differentiate between "legal" and "illegal" combatants. Our soldiers in WWII were legal combatants. As per treaty.

    None of it is cut and dry.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    LOL!! Sure. Clinton will give hundreds of thousands to any woman who makes such a charge, no matter how innocent he is!
    Hey! Bill Clinton grabbed my boob!!!
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