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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Terrorists aren't just torturing Americans. They are cutting their heads off.

    Terorists will kill anyone - men, women, children, other Muslims. It really doesn't matter to them.

    And these are the people you're sympathizing with?
    These people don't care, it is all about "getting" Bush. Notice not a word on the fact that Terrorists aren't covered by the Geneva Convention. Notice that not a word about Obama signing an Executive Order making Waterboarding illegal which means it wasn't illegal before. Notice that not a word about the drone strikes by Obama on civilians in Pakistan. The double standard and ignorance of those with BDS is quite telling.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Or it was about money and not any actual guilt. You can't make these judgements without a solid case. A settlement alone does not speak to guilt.
    LOL!! Sure. Clinton will give hundreds of thousands to any woman who makes such a charge, no matter how innocent he is!

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    For many reasons, including ending it, not having it drag out and cost in terms of other goals.


    Maybe you dont care if folks think you raped someine. Personally i find that abhorrent and any and all "settlement" i would agree to would include a retraction of said claim.


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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

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    These people don't care, it is all about "getting" Bush.
    the most truthful statement in this entire thread. they don't give a rat's ass about anything else. In their minds, Bush is the bastard love child of Satan and Hitler and nothing will get in the way of their campaign to "bring him to justice".
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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I could see him settling just to get it out of the papers. He could have settled out of pressure from the party because of an election coming up (I don't remember when all this happened relative to elections). He could have settled to keep things out of the public record that, while not illegal, may have made him look bad. He may have settled because even though he was factually innocent, the case against him was compelling enough that he may have risked losing (remember that in a civil case, the bar is "preponderance of the evidence," not "beyond a resonable doubt" -- that's a much easier standard).

    Those are just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are other good reasons that do not involve guilt or innocence.
    The man was impeached for lying to a Grand Jury and he's worried about his reputation? With whom?

    The left will always protect their own, no matter what crimes are committed. And of course they'll attack anyone unmercifully if they are perceived as a threat.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The man was impeached for lying to a Grand Jury and he's worried about his reputation? With whom?
    Asked and answered downthread.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The left will always protect their own, no matter what crimes are committed. And of course they'll attack anyone unmercifully if they are perceived as a threat.
    I'm not part of the left, if that's what you're implying.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Maybe you dont care if folks think you raped someine. Personally i find that abhorrent and any and all "settlement" i would agree to would include a retraction of said claim.


    Did this happen?
    I still think he has bigger issues hidden in the closet and he was afraid that if this went to trial those secrets might get out. In the minds of the average joe, a settlement is an admission of guilt.

    settlements in civil cases are like plea bargains in criminal cases.
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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    These people don't care, it is all about "getting" Bush. Notice not a word on the fact that Terrorists aren't covered by the Geneva Convention. Notice that not a word about Obama signing an Executive Order making Waterboarding illegal which means it wasn't illegal before. Notice that not a word about the drone strikes by Obama on civilians in Pakistan. The double standard and ignorance of those with BDS is quite telling.
    It's remarkable! They'll also overlook Clinton's impeachment for perjury while claiming, without evidence, that "Bush lied, People Died".


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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Maybe you dont care if folks think you raped someine. Personally i find that abhorrent and any and all "settlement" i would agree to would include a retraction of said claim.


    Did this happen?
    I don't think "folks" think that. Some who want to believe anything do, and would even if he were aquitted. And remember, both have leaverage here. Just keeping it going is a problem. Again, settlement alone simply isn't proof in and of itself.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It's remarkable! They'll also overlook Clinton's impeachment for perjury while claiming, without evidence, that "Bush lied, People Died".


    It's a dreadful what happens when cousins marry.
    They? Is that a myical they? Or do you have specific they in mind?

    Two points:

    1) Clinton did commit prejury. Most wouldf argue it was a question he shouldn't have been asked, and he should have said none of your damn business, but it was perjury.

    2) There is plenty of evidence of lying on Bush's part, just no conviction as no has pressed charges. Unwillingness to hear evidence is not equal to there being no evidence.


    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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