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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    It doesn't matter when it occurs, it matters how it occurs. With consent or not. It's the difference between stealing and being given a gift. One is done without consent, one is done with consent.

    Honestly, zimmer, where is the communication breakdown happening here?
    Theft and a gift... ROTFLOL, is that your best analogy? That's a terrible one.

    So... it's OK to waterboard our troops, but not our enemies that have valauble info that could save thousands or hundreds-of-thousands of lives?

    ROTFLOL.

    Torture is torture. Burning our troops would be torture and punishable, as it would be with our enemies.

    There is no time you can torture one group with or without their consent, and not consider it not torture.

    Torture is or is not. It is not selective.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    obviously not. there was nothing in the post he referenced that was in any way bigotted.
    I certainly didn't see bigotry, which is probably why he neither quoted it or responded directly. It's a too typical response from the slight of wit.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    If and when Amnesty International starts calling for the prosecution of the UN for all the rapes and murders its members have committed, I might take them seriously. Until then they can shut the hell up, this is nothing more than partisan bull****tery



    exactly....


    I strongly recommended this book for any UN apologist. I've seen this first hand. Amnesty is silent.


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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Theft and a gift... ROTFLOL, is that your best analogy? That's a terrible one.

    So... it's OK to waterboard our troops, but not our enemies that have valauble info that could save thousands or hundreds-of-thousands of lives?

    ROTFLOL.

    Torture is torture. Burning our troops would be torture and punishable, as it would be with our enemies.

    There is no time you can torture one group with or without their consent, and not consider it not torture.

    Torture is or is not. It is not selective.

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    I once read the argument that all sex was rape. Your post reminded me of that.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    exactly....


    I strongly recommended this book for any UN apologist. I've seen this first hand. Amnesty is silent.


    Amazon.com: 0892064641: Books
    Amnesia International.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    It doesn't matter when it occurs, it matters how it occurs. With consent or not. It's the difference between stealing and being given a gift. One is done without consent, one is done with consent.

    Honestly, zimmer, where is the communication breakdown happening here?
    In a time of war killing is done without consent also, as is causing serious bodily injury and name calling.

    Is it only the Americans who need consent or does that rule apply to terrorists as well?

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The SERE schools employ strict controls to reduce the risk of physical and psychological harm to students during training. Those controls include medical and psychological screening for students, interventions by trained psychologists during training, and code words to ensure that students can stop the application of a technique at any time should the need arise. Those same controls are not present in real world interrogations.
    Terrorists have code word to make the interrogation stop as well. The secret word is--INFORMATION.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Theft and a gift... ROTFLOL, is that your best analogy? That's a terrible one.
    It's the same principle. It's the difference between assault and boxing. Or between rape and sex. Take your pick.

    Please explain to me how you don't get the analogy. It seems like it is going over your head, and I would like to help you understand it.

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    So... it's OK to waterboard our troops, but not our enemies that have valauble info that could save thousands or hundreds-of-thousands of lives?
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    ROTFLOL.

    Torture is torture. Burning our troops would be torture and punishable, as it would be with our enemies.

    There is no time you can torture one group with or without their consent, and not consider it not torture.

    Torture is or is not. It is not selective.

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    An act is only torture when it is performed without the consent of the person the act is performed on. In one case, we're talking about forcible waterboarding of a victim being the war crime of torture. In another case we're talking about the consented to waterboarding of military trainees as part of a training exercise. The difference is a stark as day and night whether you want to admit it or not.

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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    .... and code words to ensure that students can stop the application of a technique at any time should the need arise.

    funny, they skipped this chapter in our briefing.
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    Re: Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

    Quote Originally Posted by Bok_Tukalo View Post
    I once read the argument that all sex was rape. Your post reminded me of that.
    Another poor analogy.

    Theft is theft.
    Perjury is perjury. Oops! Correction. If you're a Lib Pres, and it's about sex... then it's OK.
    Pregnancy is pregnancy. Ok, you can abort, but you can't undo torture.
    Torture is torture.

    And the hilarious bit is in the Libs eyes we can "torture" our troops, but not our enemies.

    ROTFLOL.

    You folks are endless entertainment.

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