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    Re: Panel Chairmen Recommend Cutting Federal Spending by $200 Billion

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    sorry, conservative, you have provided no facts, whereas i did. and you seem to be ascribing words to me which were never posted by me. you should really check yourself.
    I have indeed provided results, bea.gov will give you the actual revenue and expenses that have been spent. I suggest you do some research there.

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    Re: Panel Chairmen Recommend Cutting Federal Spending by $200 Billion

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    And on to the personal insults.
    There is no personal insult but there is the fact that liberals want to ignore, actual results.

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    Re: Panel Chairmen Recommend Cutting Federal Spending by $200 Billion

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    Do you realize that tax cuts for anyone means they get to KEEP MORE OF WHAT THEY EARNED? You don't like the rich, then stop supporting them with your purchases. Try doing that with your tax payments? Class envy and liberal class warfare is counter productive and violates the foundation upon which this country was built.
    More silly comments about class envy and liberal class warfare...That and lower taxes makes for a better economy.

    .the class envy I see is coming from middle class conservatives who wannabe wealthy class by paying less taxes instead of smarter investing. Liberal class warfare should be hard to prove, since the liberal rich are offering to submit to higher taxes for themselves. Guess they have learned how much is "enough"...
    That and lower taxes always makes for a better economy is the mantra of the right wing....

    If that is all the GOP has, 2012 should be interesting...
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    Re: Panel Chairmen Recommend Cutting Federal Spending by $200 Billion

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    More silly comments about class envy and liberal class warfare...That and lower taxes makes for a better economy.

    .the class envy I see is coming from middle class conservatives who wannabe wealthy class by paying less taxes instead of smarter investing. Liberal class warfare should be hard to prove, since the liberal rich are offering to submit to higher taxes for themselves. Guess they have learned how much is "enough"...
    That and lower taxes always makes for a better economy is the mantra of the right wing....

    If that is all the GOP has, 2012 should be interesting...
    It really is hard overcoming cult followers and their brainwashing. people keeping more of what they earn takes power away from bureaucrats and thus they need less of that so called "liberal" help. that scares the hell out of liberals, losing their power. Lower taxes always helps individuals create a better economy for themselves. Why do you have a problem with that? Why do you want your dollars sent to D.C. so D.C. can spend it the way they want vs. sending it to your state and local govt. where you are closer to the spending and thus the control? there isn't a lot of logic to a liberal's argument.

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    Re: Panel Chairmen Recommend Cutting Federal Spending by $200 Billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    My God, where do you come up with this stuff?

    I hear Americans say this all the time, and for the life of me, I can't figure out how they figure that. Britain and France are two of the most powerful nations on Earth, that is a fact -- and they're not dependent on anyone for their protection. The only possible way I can figure you saying that is that you must somehow be referring to NATO, an organisation in which Britain, France and the US are equal partners.

    Furthermore, I do believe it was America begging the rest of Europe to join it in Iraq, not the other way around. And yet, France and Britain have both fought wars (successfully, I might add, which can't be said about Iraq or Afghanistan) without American aide.

    Long story short, you're talking out of your arse.
    The general order of the world is maintained by the U.S. military. France and England rely on that order in their military and diplomatic engagements.

    That era is passing, however.
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    Re: Panel Chairmen Recommend Cutting Federal Spending by $200 Billion

    if social security and medicare are such successful govt programs, why are they in need of such massive fixing?

    why can't they keep the promises they made to the citizens who've paid tens of thousands of tax dollars into these programs?

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    Re: Panel Chairmen Recommend Cutting Federal Spending by $200 Billion

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    Lower taxes always helps individuals create a better economy for themselves.
    I have no idea how you would even begin to try and prove that claim.

    And I thought we were talking about society and the American people here - not just what is good for an individual?
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    Re: Panel Chairmen Recommend Cutting Federal Spending by $200 Billion

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    I have no idea how you would even begin to try and prove that claim.

    And I thought we were talking about society and the American people here - not just what is good for an individual?
    Hate to break it to you but society is made up of individuals and individuals with more spendable income need less of that so called liberal help. Why are liberals so afraid of people keeping more of what they earn? You actually believe that liberal bureaucrats really care about the poor and underprivledged? If they truly cared they would solve the problem but don't.Why?

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    Re: Panel Chairmen Recommend Cutting Federal Spending by $200 Billion

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    if social security and medicare are such successful govt programs, why are they in need of such massive fixing?

    why can't they keep the promises they made to the citizens who've paid tens of thousands of tax dollars into these programs?
    Well, part of the problem with Medicare is that the costs are about three times more than we are bringing in from tax witholding. That math will never work. So, the tens of thousand paid into these programs isn't nearly enough.

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    Re: Panel Chairmen Recommend Cutting Federal Spending by $200 Billion

    then it doesn't appear to be a very successful program, after all

    members were promised services, not rate hikes

    why can't social security keep its promises, why must it be fixed (again)?

    and to the tune of trillions?

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