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    Re: George W Bush claims UK lives 'saved by waterboarding'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    You were defending him against the charge of being a terrorist. The "lunacy" is where you went to claim he's not a terrorist -- that he's an enemy soldier conducting a war.

    I'm pretty sure it's you (once again!) who's displaying the "absolutist" thought here.
    What does the military call him, since they're the ones who are going to put him on trial?

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    Re: George W Bush claims UK lives 'saved by waterboarding'

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    We're not looking at a specific case or profile, nor even a specific event. I know I've come into the thread at a point where we're not really discussing this any more, but all I was saying was that America is as fallible as every other nation or group out there -- they make mistakes, and they inevitably make mistakes with political prisoners. That's all.

    It's nothing groundbreaking.
    So KSM is really nothing more than a 'political prisoner'? Is that right?


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    Re: George W Bush claims UK lives 'saved by waterboarding'

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Let's go with this scenario: A terrorist sets a bomb and to defuse it you need a special code, if you use the wrong code - KABOOM!!! You torture the terrorist so he will reveal the code and he gives you one. Do you believe him?

    Also, how easy is it to make someone say "Uncle" when you have their arm twisted behind their back?

    Report: KSM Lied to Avoid Further Waterboarding; ‘I Make Up Stories’ - Law Blog - WSJ
    As he confessed to everything ever done, including killing the Easter Bunny, it seemed pretty obvious he a made a few things up. And there's no evidence I've seen that he gave us anything we didn't already have.

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    Re: George W Bush claims UK lives 'saved by waterboarding'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As he confessed to everything ever done, including killing the Easter Bunny, it seemed pretty obvious he a made a few things up. And there's no evidence I've seen that he gave us anything we didn't already have.
    That is because of what you choose to believe and because of a bad case of BDS. You don't know much about Islam do you?

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    Re: George W Bush claims UK lives 'saved by waterboarding'

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That is because of what you choose to believe and because of a bad case of BDS. You don't know much about Islam do you?
    I'm sorry conservative, I usually at least follow your rantings. But ths is more than a bit confusing. There is nothing about Islam that changes the turht of what I said. Nor does it account for the fact we've seen no evidence of anything gained from KSM. You will have to be more specific and clear.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: George W Bush claims UK lives 'saved by waterboarding'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm sorry conservative, I usually at least follow your rantings. But ths is more than a bit confusing. There is nothing about Islam that changes the turht of what I said. Nor does it account for the fact we've seen no evidence of anything gained from KSM. You will have to be more specific and clear.
    As stated, study up on Islam and learn exactly what it teaches people to say and when, get back to me after you do your research. There is plenty of evidence that we gained a lot from KSM including actual plots thwarted and individuals captured.

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    Re: George W Bush claims UK lives 'saved by waterboarding'

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    As stated, study up on Islam and learn exactly what it teaches people to say and when, get back to me after you do your research. There is plenty of evidence that we gained a lot from KSM including actual plots thwarted and individuals captured.
    Again, that doesn't matter or change anything. Fact, KSM confessed to everything, so it should be doubted. Fact, there has been no evidence we got anything that we didn't already have. Regardless of Islam or anything they we taught, the facts remian the same.

    And no, there is no evidence any plots were thrawed from intel received from KSM that I'm aware of. In fact, what Cheney presented when pushed was proven to be false as we knew about that plot before KSM was even captured.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: George W Bush claims UK lives 'saved by waterboarding'

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    What does the military call him, since they're the ones who are going to put him on trial?
    I don't care.
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    Re: George W Bush claims UK lives 'saved by waterboarding'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As he confessed to everything ever done, including killing the Easter Bunny, it seemed pretty obvious he a made a few things up. And there's no evidence I've seen that he gave us anything we didn't already have.



    seriously you don't think we have experts that can figure out what is true and not by a good margin? Intelligence is not your strong point... (I mean cia type of stuff of course.)
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    Re: George W Bush claims UK lives 'saved by waterboarding'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, that doesn't matter or change anything. Fact, KSM confessed to everything, so it should be doubted. Fact, there has been no evidence we got anything that we didn't already have. Regardless of Islam or anything they we taught, the facts remian the same.

    And no, there is no evidence any plots were thrawed from intel received from KSM that I'm aware of. In fact, what Cheney presented when pushed was proven to be false as we knew about that plot before KSM was even captured.
    First of all, you weren't there when KSM was waterboarded and don't know what he said or didn't say. Second you know nothing about Islam and what Islam teaches about what to say and what not to say and when. I suggest you find out. You have a bad case of BDS and suggest you get over it. You have enough problems with "your" President.

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