Time to get serious. This was an airplane there was flame seen, that was a reflection of the Sun on the plane.
About 8 years I was headed north out of Needles CA. on AA. 95 and heard a report on the radio of a UFO to the north of my location.
I looked up and sure enough it was there alright. It was a very, very bright light in the sky that seemed to just hang there for ever.
When I good home 20 minutes later and I called KDWN Radio in Las Vegas and they called Nellis AFB and it turned out to be a huge weather balloon at about 60,000 ft.
I thought the object was possibly over Lake Mohave about 20 miles away, but turns out 60,000 ft. is 11.36 miles high and Nellis AFB is just over 90 miles from where I was yet it looked closer and it was a lot bigger than you would think a 40 ft wide balloon would be at all that distance and altitude.
Optics can be very deceiving, with angle, light, time of day, cloud cover, humidity, and direction of the sun, and more. Even ones state of mind at the first moment can effect what you think you see.
I saw a flock of white birds at a distance in the same area once and it took me a while to figure out what I was seeing because they they would disappear when they turned a certain way in the afternoon Sunshine.
Has anyone checked the flight Schedules out of LAX, Burbank, Ontario, March AFB, Norton AFB, etc. to see if there was anything close to the time in the air?
After everyone said they didn't know or what ever that should have been the next place to look.
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Pentagon can't explain apparent mystery plume off California coast - CNN.com
This sounds like something I have actually seen if this is true but seriously our military and intelligence community is so damn massive they are steppign on eachothers toes trying to explain what is going on. Just another reason why Rand Paul is right I suppose.
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Okay I need a crystal ball. I got it wrong, Richard C. Hogland is not going to be the conspiracy nut tonight.
First Hour: Whitley Strieber and Charles R. Smith comment on a mysterious missile launch in Los Angeles.
I still say it's no big deal. KCAL-9 News showed another video this evening taken at almost the same time and while it was not an exact match it was so close as to put this story to bed.
Chalk it up to optical illusion.
Ok. First off the missile came from the ocean (submarine). The only countries with the capabilities to launch an ICBM from submarines are USA, Russia, China, France, Britain. So assuming France isn't planning on destroying us any time soon. I would bet my ridiculous government salary that it was in fact the US who launched this and its secret enough that they are denying they had nothing to do with it. The fact that not one of the military branches, NORAD, or NASA claim they have NO IDEA what it was kinda leads one to speculate. Or what about the missile facility/range at Barking Sands in Hawaii. I'm stationed at Hickam AFB and have done my fair share of ferrying missions to and from there in support of test launches. The Japanese and US have been flexing their partnership with the joint missile defense tests as recent at late October. Many of these training missiles are launched from that very same facility in Hawaii. Basic idea one side launches crap into the air and the other side shoots it down. Who's to say it wasn't just a more covert part of those training exercises? See if a sub launched missile could be shot down. But the fact that our government is just coming right out and saying they have no idea...one, I honestly don't think they would risk looking this incompetent by admitting they don't know. And two, I would bet it was US who launched it. I've also heard some folks claim it was an "accidental" launch. Lets be clear. It is IMPOSSIBLE to accidentally launch from a submarine. Way too many fail safes ie: the cookie, the safe who's combination isn't even known on the submarine, multiple keys, etc....
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L.A.’s Mystery ‘Missile’ Is Probably a Jet | Danger Room | Wired.com
GlobalSecurity.org director John Pike, there’s an easy explanation: “It is obviously an airplane.”
“The aircraft is flying towards the observer; the air over the Pacific is clear, so the contrail is visible all the way to the horizon. This creates the optical illusion of a rocket flying up, rather than the actual situation of an airplane flying horizontally,” Pike tells Danger Room. “The object generating the contrail is moving too slowly to be a rocket; the contrail is not expanding as the ‘rocket’ gains ‘altitude’ — which would be the case as the exhaust plume expanding into less dense high altitude air.”
MIT astronomer Jonathan McDowell tells New Scientist pretty much the same thing.
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