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    Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance

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    Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance

    America needs to plan for a decline in its ability to affect the spheres of influence of other nations. If we posture properly we can keep our part of the pie. I think. I don't know sometimes I think the US is an oil eating monster. I hope it doesn't go down in a screaming blaze. Another false war and were toast. A pre-emptive war against another rising power would be the worst.

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    Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance

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    America needs to plan for a decline in its ability to affect the spheres of influence of other nations. If we posture properly we can keep our part of the pie. I think. I don't know sometimes I think the US is an oil eating monster. I hope it doesn't go down in a screaming blaze. Another false war and were toast. A pre-emptive war against another rising power would be the worst.

    No, surely the American leadership is smarter than that.

    There's no way a leading nation's government could do something as disastrous as that.

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    Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance

    Depends, the US has an intermediate amount of state stability according to the indexes I've seen. A candidate backed by apocalyptic christians or possibly a tea-bagger who doesn't know how to play the game could pull a dubya.

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    Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance

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    Who says we have a low self esteem? I see that in liberals but not everyone. . j-mac
    Perhaps it's a visual impairment... Take the word "Acknowledge" from your OP: ..."to admit to be real or true; recognize the existence, truth, or fact of: ..." by using that word, you agree to the fact that status has been lost, yet you criticise your President for admitting this. What a convoluted mindset.
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    Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Depends, the US has an intermediate amount of state stability according to the indexes I've seen. A candidate backed by apocalyptic christians or possibly a tea-bagger who doesn't know how to play the game could pull a dubya.
    But even George Bush, who essentially ran your country into the ground, didn't go and do something as stupid as attacking China or India or Brasil.

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    Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance

    They only really have to invade the wrong small country for the wrong reasons or in someones sphere of influence then it would be toast.

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    But even George Bush, who essentially ran your country into the ground, didn't go and do something as stupid as attacking China or India or Brasil.
    WW1 was started by the killing of some minor countries leader. What looks like some minor event, can snowball into something major

    Geopoltically I view current conditions in the world to be very similar to that of pre WW1
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    Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    WW1 was started by the killing of some minor countries leader. What looks like some minor event, can snowball into something major

    Geopoltically I view current conditions in the world to be very similar to that of pre WW1
    In what way is it remotely the same?

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    Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    In what way is it remotely the same?
    Forget about the individual countries involved and look at what the state of the economy and what the great powers at the time were doing

    Pre WW1 global trade was growing fast, along with international travel.

    You had an existing superpower (UK) both a military and economic power, a growing power (well two actually in Germany and the US).

    The existing superpower was seeing its geopolitical power decline in comparision to the growing economic and military power of Germany, leading to countries trying to form various alliances against the growing power of Germany ( Russia was Russia then and now) The existing superpower was involved in plenty of military actions across the globe, at a level far greater then that of the growing powers. The existing power was begining to view the growing powers as a threat

    Today the existing power is the US, the growing power is of course China, (Russia is again Russia) the EU could be viewed as the US in WW1 a potential power should it put its mind to it.

    The US does feel threatened by the growth of China both economically and militarily, hence the growing ties to India by the US governmment. China is growing and will continue to do so. The main issue will be. Will the US do anything to actively limit China in its geopolitcal and economic influence/growth. That will be the determining issue regarding a peacefull rise of China or not. If the US tries to actively limit China's growth, conflict will come, if the US does not actively limit China's growth, then conflict is quite unlikely
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