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    Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What makes this a reality in your mind?


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    The decline of our domestic production, general economic issues, globalization, modernizing of India and China... it's not hard to see that we aren't as clearly dominant as we were 20 years ago.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The decline of our domestic production, general economic issues, globalization, modernizing of India and China... it's not hard to see that we aren't as clearly dominant as we were 20 years ago.
    What could we do to get back to the number one slot, or should we even bother?


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    Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What is it that we don't do for the world? Who is first in with aid? Who is the leader in money given in aid to other countries? Who gives more charity {private} than any other country? Answer: We do. What do we get in return? Demonized, and lied about, even by those in this country.

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    Whether aid actually even helps is up to debate.

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    Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance

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    Whether aid actually even helps is up to debate.
    Ok, so stop the aid....Got it...Then what do you think they will say about the US?

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    Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance

    "I don't beleive America sucks it just reality that we aren't dominant anymore."
    Why? What has happened to make that a reality?
    Lot's of reasons. Economics and transition friction. Modern warfare and the fact that nations cannot be conquered without reverting to atrocities of the past which are not acceptable to modern international society anymore. Also, one reeeaaaalllyy bad president (Bush). A bad war that has sapped resources and the reality that some nations cannot be democratized. The loss of international face over that war which means less power and prestige at the table. The president of China probably wouldnt even look our president in the eye. The international system is changing. I'll see what i can pull up. Half the game is having the respect and cards to play and someone threw it all away.

    Also: overexpansion, loss of ideological legitimacy.
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    Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance

    It should be noted that the U.S. still is the most powerful country and will continue to be for some time. The problem is that we are trending towards losing that perch in the future. Some factors influencing cannot be controlled. India and China both have much larger populations, and the advantages we hold in technology become smaller as they advance. That said, we have hastened the process with countless mistakes. We have lacked commitment from either our leadership or the public in maintaining our international status.

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    Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, so stop the aid....Got it...Then what do you think they will say about the US?

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    I never said to stop it, there are real steps the western nations should take (maybe they cant, maybe theyre constrained politicaly) to help por nations such as removing subsidization of grains etc. But that of course would make all processed foods more expensive. So many considerations. So many poopy outcomes.

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    Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    One of the few things I'll give him credit for.

    Credit where its due.
    Reminds me of a person from Sudan I teach here. He's a huge fan of Bill Clinton as Clinton helped him move to the country. In class, students were making cases for which candidate they were going to vote for. He was looking at party affilliation, and when he saw the R, he said you can't vote for those people. They won't help you. I laughed to myself, but asked him to explain. His entire explanation was based on his opinion of Bush's help, or what he saw as a lack of help (perception).

    Just found it interesting and don't suggest I agree with his interpretation of all republicans.

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    Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance

    There's nothing wrong with admitting the rise of powers, both militarily and economically, like Brazil, China, India, etc. Its simply reality, and thats all Obama is saying. J-Mac is simply assuming it means so much more because it feeds his self-righteousness, I mean the man is nothing if he can't complain about he's the only one who "gets it." I mean good Lord the guy is egotistical enough to remember to add his name to the bottom of every post.

    Anyway just because there are other economies rising, which will compete with America, through and because of globalization, the United States is still leaps and bounds ahead of these countries in military and economic power.

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    Re: Obama acknowledges decline of US dominance

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    There's nothing wrong with admitting the rise of powers, both militarily and economically, like Brazil, China, India, etc. Its simply reality, and thats all Obama is saying. J-Mac is simply assuming it means so much more because it feeds his self-righteousness, I mean the man is nothing if he can't complain about he's the only one who "gets it." I mean good Lord the guy is egotistical enough to remember to add his name to the bottom of every post.

    Anyway just because there are other economies rising, which will compete with America, through and because of globalization, the United States is still leaps and bounds ahead of these countries in military and economic power.
    it's poor national self esteem. It's a terrible thing. Just sad.






    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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