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    Re: Sen.-elect Paul: GOP must consider military cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Sometimes, but no one is yet suggesting that be the case. I'm talking things like the F-22 program. You don't have to worry about training, the Army is all about modularity these days and soldiers always gets chances for training allowing them to serve outside their primary MOS. Its almost a requirement for promotion beyond SSG now.
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    Re: Sen.-elect Paul: GOP must consider military cuts

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    It's insane because there are people who think that the ideas proposed by these guys are sensible. I mean the military is probably the 2nd or 3rd biggest social program the United States has. Congress not only signs military paychecks, it signs bills for military housing, financial aid for colleges, food aid for thousands of members.

    Neither Democrats nor Republicans can afford to say that they're going to cut any of the benefits to being in the military off. The political backlash would be insane and it's not just from old cats like Navy Pride. It would be from all sides, the millions of families who are dependent on the many benefits members of the military get would go looking to lynch their local representatives.

    Yeah Paul, keep this line up. It's sure to make you a one term Senator.
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    Re: Sen.-elect Paul: GOP must consider military cuts

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    What unit did you serve in?
    In all honesty I just reported for active duty on Oct 5th this year. But I'm scheduled to report to the 46th TC company of the 501st Sustainment Brigade in Camp Stanley Korea in March. Currently I'm at Ft. Lee VA attending Transportation Corp BOLC, Basic officer leadership course, so I'm a logistican.

    But I can tell you from the NCO talk and instructor talk is that the Army is planning on a serious down-sizing in the next 2-6 years and it plans to be ready by having soldiers prepared to function in multiple fields so it doesn't end up with serious shortages or excesses in one MOS when all the smoke has cleared.

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    Re: Sen.-elect Paul: GOP must consider military cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Oh, for God's sake. Don't gore my ox!!!!!!!!! We're doomed.
    Well, the thing is that the military is everybody's ox to some extent.

    Even if you're not in the military you're at the very least likely to know somebody in the military. Families which depend on military paychecks aren't going to take Paul's goring all that well. After all, it's not like he ever served. His father did, but he's now a career politician. So as Navy would say 'it's no skin off their backs'.

    I'm all for gutting some social programs as they're ineffective. Cutting the military budget? Depends what we're cutting and how much we're cutting. Anything above 10% would be political suicide for any politician who supports it.
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    Re: Sen.-elect Paul: GOP must consider military cuts

    There are certainly some areas of military funding that could be cut (weapons modernizaton/development would be a good start), but somehow I get the feeling that Paul is talking about VA benefits and the 20-40 billion spent on foreign aid. Neither of which is a great idea. It would be good to have more transparency regarding the military budget, there is a lot of money floating around under the title of "undisclosed funds" that should be sorted.
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    Re: Sen.-elect Paul: GOP must consider military cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    I was wondering how far the apple fell from the tree

    I expect a massive backlash towards Rand Paul from this statement
    So far what I've heard from the Rep. is that nothing is off that table and that includes defense spending. I don't expect much backlash at all. They were all elected to take control of the spending. They better do that or there will be backlash in 2012.
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    Re: Sen.-elect Paul: GOP must consider military cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by librep View Post
    There are certainly some areas of military funding that could be cut (weapons modernizaton/development would be a good start), but somehow I get the feeling that Paul is talking about VA benefits and the 20-40 billion spent on foreign aid. Neither of which is a great idea. It would be good to have more transparency regarding the military budget, there is a lot of money floating around under the title of "undisclosed funds" that should be sorted.
    Cutting foreign aid should be the first military spending cut back. Im sick of subsidizing other countries.
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    Re: Sen.-elect Paul: GOP must consider military cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    After the defense cuts take place, our troops will find themselves embroiled in a protracted conflict and lack equipment. Then what?

    The reality of defense cuts, is that the cuts start at the bottom and go up. Which means that Sgt. Joe, his wife and three kids aren't going to be able to get quarters on post, because of the cuts and, because of the cuts, his BAQ (basic allowance for quarters) will get cut. Combat arms troops won't be able to conduct as much live fire training, which will deny them the realistic training they need to be able to transition onto an actual battlefield. Specialized training will be cut back, meaning that fewer soldiers will be qualified outside their primary MOS.

    Training, is the first thing that suffers when cuts are made to the defense budget.
    There has got to be some wasteful spending they could do away with, don't you think? I have faith in our newly elected officials to take care of our military.
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    Re: Sen.-elect Paul: GOP must consider military cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    So far what I've heard from the Rep. is that nothing is off that table and that includes defense spending. I don't expect much backlash at all. They were all elected to take control of the spending. They better do that or there will
    I would like to see that Paul doesnt see some backlash, but I have a feeling their will be and Paul will recant soon. Unless he is has a strong a conviction as his father
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    Re: Sen.-elect Paul: GOP must consider military cuts

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    But I can tell you from the NCO talk and instructor talk is that the Army is planning on a serious down-sizing in the next 2-6 years and it plans to be ready by having soldiers prepared to function in multiple fields so it doesn't end up with serious shortages or excesses in one MOS when all the smoke has cleared.
    It will be cut because warfare has changed so dramatically over the past decade. The way war was fought for centuries is obsolete.

    No one will attack with full armies anymore, they will attack through demographics and terrorism, just as China did in Tibet. Soldiers will be highly trained but trained quite differently than they were in the past. It will be more of a clandestine war with drones playing an ever increasing role against terrorist leaders. As well, there will be more financially espionage (such as currency manipulations), computer espionage, and domestic terrorism. The propaganda wars against the democracies, so successfully developed by the Communists during their golden age, will continue

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