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    Re: Results of Obama's India Trip

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And so was every other President......You do know Bush did exactly the same... as did Reagan, and Clinton..

    Let me guess, its cause it is Obama that it is now some how wrong...
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    Re: Results of Obama's India Trip

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And so was every other President......You do know Bush did exactly the same... as did Reagan, and Clinton..

    Let me guess, its cause it is Obama that it is now some how wrong...
    Looks like you're exposing your own prejudices.
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    Re: Results of Obama's India Trip

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Firstly, whats all the hankering about Harley Davidson motorcycles? Does anyone really expect the President, or any President, to be able to convince another nation into a one-sided trade deal which only benefits the US?

    Secondly from my understand the Harley Davidson deal only creates jobs. American workers in the US will be creating the parts which will then be shipped to India for assembly. The assembly process that will take part in India, NEVER WAS DONE IN THE UNITED STATES. Its not jobs going to India, its new jobs being created in India, but at the same time creating new jobs in the US because Harley Davidson know has to hire more workers to make new parts. So in the end both India and the US win.

    Now I'm aware that Harley Davidson does assemble bikes in the US, I'm simply talking about the additional bikes that will be produced by Harley globally, those additional jobs have never existed in the US. So there is no loss for us on that part.
    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    This deal was done beforehand. It did not happen today. This is not a result of this costly over priced trip.
    Yes it is. While I'm sure diplomats have been hammering this deal out for months, maybe even years. There's still a value to face-to-face talks, not only to politicians, as humans, still like to see their partners in person because it fosters trust and improves relations. When a foreign leader takes time to physically attend a trade summit, which you bet will also including talks on other topics besides trade, it shows how valuable that relationship and adds extra emphasis.

    It also as a benefit of forcing the host nation to pay attention to the visiting nation. No nation will let it be said that when the US President shows up at their doors, or asks to show up, they aren't hospitable or friendly enough to accept his invitation and show off their country.

    Lastly, this trip is about more than India, Obama is visiting Indonesia, South Korea, and Japan. SECDEF Gates is visiting Australia to hammer out new Defense deals. Clinton is also visiting several other Asian countries like Australia, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Malaysia, Cambodia, China and Vietnam.

    Also at the end of this trip there's the G-20 meeting in South Korea, where world leaders are expected to met. To discuss hundreds of billion of dollars in trade deals, as well as in some ways the future of the global economy. It sounds pretty important to me.



    Every other world lead is going to show up, should it be said that America is too poor to show? Or just doesn't care enough to show up? Or any other reason people would come up with for America not showing?

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    Re: Results of Obama's India Trip

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post


    Every other world lead is going to show up, should it be said that America is too poor to show? Or just doesn't care enough to show up? Or any other reason people would come up with for America not showing?
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    Re: Results of Obama's India Trip

    New Reasons Behind Harley Deal, Why Aren't the Bikes Being Assembled Here?

    India has import laws which would literally double the price of imported bikes from the US. Obviously by increasing the price so much, demand falters in the Indian market.

    Since a trade deal has to benefit both parties, the US and India agreed that the parts would be created in the US while the bikes would be assembled in India, thus BYPASSING the import laws reducing the cost of the bike and increasing demand in India.

    If the agreement had the US both making the parts and assembling them, the deal would be worth less money and create less jobs in the United States because the demand for bikes imported would be so much less than bikes assembled in India, again because it would literally double the cost up front.

    So by building the plant in India, but making the parts in the US, India increases its own employment, and the US creates jobs for a new demand, meaning those jobs never existed before now, and it creates more jobs than if we built everything in the US because ultimately we are making a cheaper product.

    Harley-Davidson to build bikes in India - CNN

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    Re: Results of Obama's India Trip

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    No

    The US will manufacture all of the parts, put the parts in a big box, send the box to India where final assembly will occur, where the motorcycles will be sold in India not in the US, net gain to the US
    Well, that's not entirely accurate. Harley doesn't manufacture all their parts in the US. I don't know what the percentage is, but it's not insignificant.

    Why anybody in India would want to buy and overpriced, underwhelming motorcycle from America is beyond me, but more power to them. Marketing geniuses.

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    Re: Results of Obama's India Trip

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And so was every other President......You do know Bush did exactly the same... as did Reagan, and Clinton..

    Let me guess, its cause it is Obama that it is now some how wrong...
    and who whines about it saying republicans are in the pocket of big business then turn around and applaud obama for doing the same thing. Hypocrisy and liberalism go hand and hand.

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    Re: Results of Obama's India Trip

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    And again you miss the important part of this trip

    SECURITY COOPERATION overall and regarding China, the potential sale of fighter jets, and nuclear technology.
    Yet he makes this trip at a large cost by taking many more people than he needs to

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    Re: Results of Obama's India Trip

    Quote Originally Posted by FederalRepublic View Post
    Well, that's not entirely accurate. Harley doesn't manufacture all their parts in the US. I don't know what the percentage is, but it's not insignificant.

    Why anybody in India would want to buy and overpriced, underwhelming motorcycle from America is beyond me, but more power to them. Marketing geniuses.
    Shows you know nothing about a Harley

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    Re: Results of Obama's India Trip

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Shows you know nothing about a Harley
    I don't? In that case, I'm all ears.

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