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    Re: Results of Obama's India Trip

    Some people will complain about anything!

    Pundits complained that the Stimulas plan didn't "stimulate" the economy as planned.

    They complained that no new jobs were being created.

    They complained that any Obama foreign policies would stiffle job growth and U.S. exports.

    They complained that no new private sector jobs were being created.

    They complained that Obama was anti-business/anti-private sector and was ALL government.

    Yet when he announces a multi-BILLION dollar/10-year business deal with one of the fastest growing global markets in Asia let alone the world, suddenly he's "outsourcing jobs" or his job creation estimates are fake, over aggsagerated.

    Can this man get any credit at all for doing what other Presidents have done before him? History shows that people complained when Nixon opened negotiations w/China but look at how that turned out? Until recently, few complained about Chinesse imports, but now that China holds so much of our debt folks complain about it. Here, we have a public-private partnership w/India to build and/or sell commercial and fighter planes, aircraft engines and aircraft parts by TWO leading U.S. airframe companies - Boeing and GE - a U.S./India partnership that will produce (est.) 54,000 jobs HERE in the U.S., maybe more, and all you nay-sayers can think of is the exportation of motorcycle parts to be assembled in India? My how your minds are so closed.

    You can't ship an entire ASSEMBLED motorcycle (or car for that matter) overseas without it costing a bundle. The reduction in tarriffs to India will save them millions while also bolstering jobs right here in the U.S. with a leading U.S. motorcycle manufacturer. I really don't see where the problem is here. It's a win-win for both countries, IMO, especially here in the U.S. considering all the negative talk about the lack of creating private-sector jobs.

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    Re: Results of Obama's India Trip

    Quote Originally Posted by Bok_Tukalo View Post
    No.

    But I am curious as to why you think the American president should fold to foreign interests over American workers.
    That's another foolhearty notion the pundits have. If he goes overseas to negotiate/close a deal on U.S. export but falls short because the foreign government wants more than the U.S. is willing to compromise on, well, now he didn't do a good enough sales job. But wait a minute!

    If he does broker/close a deal that only allows for the shipment of assembled parts abroad, now he's "outsourcing" U.S. jobs. Nevermind that the parts will still be manufactured HERE, that the components will be assembled into larger components HERE and that the industry manufacturing and assembling the smaller parts will remain HERE in the U.S.

    Get real, people. You're really being quite foolish on this issue.

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    Re: Results of Obama's India Trip

    he's setting himself up again

    Economic turmoil overshadows NATO - Josh Gerstein - POLITICO.com

    he's gonna come back from portugal, just like he returned from asia last week, rejected, rebuffed, disrespected and empty handed

    he simply can't see a single move ahead

    he wants help in afghanistan, which affable, laughable, gaffe-able joe biden said this morning on msnbc's coffee joe would come to know our "drop dead date" for withdrawal in TWENTY FOURTEEN

    Joe Biden: 2014 Afghanistan Pullout Is 'Drop Dead Date'

    how do you feel about THAT?

    how do you feel about obama's ESCALATION of what BOB WOODWARD called OBAMA'S WAR?

    more important, how do our nato allies feel?

    read the link at the top of the page, if you don't know yet

    yes, bonehead obama wants to talk afghanistan, but all his partners are interested in (especially in portugal) are AUSTERITY on the one hand and QUANTITATIVE EASING on the other

    which, we've already seen what comes of that

    NationalJournal.com - America?s Rodney Dangerfield Moment - Friday, November 12, 2010

    by the way, when have you seen THE FED resort to POLITICAL posturing?

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...StungFedsReply

    STILL not embarrassed?

    you need to read more

    americans have never known such amateurishness in our white house
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    Re: Results of Obama's India Trip

    Foreign policy setbacks deepen Obama's wounds

    Since his midterm shellacking this month, [obama] has suffered a series of foreign policy setbacks, in Congress and abroad, that have put his agenda for improving America's standing and strength overseas at risk.

    From failing to secure a free-trade agreement in South Korea to struggling to win Senate ratification of an arms-control treaty with Russia, Obama has bumped up against the boundaries of his power at a defining moment of his presidency.

    He is halfway through his term and politically weaker after midterm voters punished his party. But ahead are a host of unresolved foreign policy issues, from drawing down troops in Afghanistan to advancing Middle East peace prospects and economic relations with China, that will require a firm base of domestic support and could help determine whether he is reelected.
    wapo spells it out

    1. increased allied commitment for afghanistan

    2. south korean free trade (killed at least partially by his inability to win cooperation from the uaw)

    3. international consensus on chinese currency (undermined by bernanke's november 3 decision to pump 600B of qe)

    4. mideast peace (hillary's hi profile flop)

    5. start

    6. gitmo

    7. sanctions vs iran (when are you gonna meet with iran's leaders, barry?)

    8. clearly the world that he imagined is different than the world as it is

    the rodney dangerfield of us presidents

    shame

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    Re: Results of Obama's India Trip

    Can this man get any credit at all for doing what other Presidents have done before him?

    No. He poisoned the well. Now he must drink deeply.

    George W. Bush also poisoned the well. He was forced to drink deeply. Do you remember Michael Moore?

    Unfortunately, the treatment of Bush has established a precedent in America which legitimizes the transformation of presidents into caretakers.

    Obama is a caretaker, just like Bush was. America is paralyzed.

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    Re: Results of Obama's India Trip

    Obama has done more damage to hurt the world view of the US than Bush ever did

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    Re: Results of Obama's India Trip

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Obama has done more damage to hurt the world view of the US than Bush ever did
    Bush was a good man who should have run a diner. If it hadn't been for Bush, Obama would never have been elected.

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    Re: Results of Obama's India Trip

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Bush was a good man who should have run a diner. If it hadn't been for Bush, Obama would never have been elected.
    Yes that is the wost thing about Bush we got Obama

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    Re: Results of Obama's India Trip

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The One spent $2 billion to go to India, just to outsource some jobs?
    Source? Pro-tip: there isn't one because it isn't true.

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    Re: Results of Obama's India Trip

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean_H View Post
    Source? Pro-tip: there isn't one because it isn't true.
    There is no source because Obama does not want you to know how much tax payer money he is spending

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