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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Now, I'm the first person to come out against my own country when it comes to a racist history. But are you seriously comparing Europe to the U.S.? Are we talking about the same Europe where Leopold the II comes from? The same Europe which has kept an entire continent under perpetual dependency in one form or another for over 400 years? The same Europe that won't let a Muslim woman chose whether she wants to wear a hijab or not? Are we talking about that Europe? Look Jucon, right now as I see it we have two options:

    You can throw American history in the face of American posters

    or

    We can talk about European atrocities on an entire continent and their own.

    The choice is yours really.
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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    I am sick to damn death of the I hate America bunch.

    Lets take all of the people the U.S.A. have freed from bondage, murder, torture etc. and measure those numbers against any other number the blame America first bunch want, and see what comes out on top.

    When Rwanda was under attacked Koffee Annon ordered the Canadian General on the ground not to stop the genocide, when it could be stopped with almost no killings.

    That was a crime and he went on to be Secretary General.

    Give me a break.

    We really do need to deport all Illegals, and the blame America fisrt bunch with them.

    We could then have a Nation run by the rule of law under the Constitution.

    We would automatically be rid of the Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, and hundreds of others.
    its ok for you to criticize america? illegals are a problem in the US and its ok for you to say so, but hwen we say something (that is true) like there is a direct corellation between US government aid to foreign countires and their human rights abuses....i become part of a balme america first crowd?


    why is it ok for you to criticize and not the (probably more intelligent) critics of foreign policy?
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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    Quote Originally Posted by commy View Post
    its ok for you to criticize america? illegals are a problem in the US and its ok for you to say so, but hwen we say something (that is true) like there is a direct corellation between US government aid to foreign countires and their human rights abuses....i become part of a balme america first crowd?


    why is it ok for you to criticize and not the (probably more intelligent) critics of foreign policy?
    What's the context of the criticism. You complain that American aid is funding a foreign country and that foreign country is involved in human rights abuses; but how often do you stop to consider that that country would be abusing human rights, American money, or no American money? Probably never; you simply blame it on America, first.

    Just like Iraq. Whose fault is it that Muslim insurgents are suicide bombing Muslim civilians? You'll rarely hear anyone from the blame America first crowd blame the insurgents.

    That's Councilman's point.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    I am sick to damn death of the I hate America bunch.

    Lets take all of the people the U.S.A. have freed from bondage, murder, torture etc. and measure those numbers against any other number the blame America first bunch want, and see what comes out on top.

    When Rwanda was under attacked Koffee Annon ordered the Canadian General on the ground not to stop the genocide, when it could be stopped with almost no killings.

    That was a crime and he went on to be Secretary General.

    Give me a break.

    We really do need to deport all Illegals, and the blame America fisrt bunch with them.

    We could then have a Nation run by the rule of law under the Constitution.

    We would automatically be rid of the Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, and hundreds of others.
    Well, someone called this. I think those who believe as you do might try some national self esteem classes. Work on being able to handle legitimate criticism without going over the edge. It's OK to hear things you don't like, if you know down deep that you're still pretty damn good. Only those who don't really know how good they are see everything as being unfair.

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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    **** the UN, it's supporters, and the despots that make up it's "human rights" council. Obama showing that he believes US sovereignty is sub servant to international dictators.
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    I have serious concerns about the U.S. allowing its human rights record to be reviewed by the UN Human Rights Council. That body has been anything but impartial. While I expect that the record has its share of issues, my larger concern is that the U.S. gesture will provide the UNHRC with a measure of credibility that it does not deserve until it addresses its own internal issues.

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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    LOL

    Yes, when I think of racially motivated laws and segregation, the US is certainly the first one that comes to mind. The EU has never had any problems with race, it's all a perfect paradise.
    So are you denying that a state in the union has not just "banned" the usage of Sharia law but not other religious laws?

    So are you denying that Texas executed non nationals after denying them consular access?

    So are you denying GITMO?`

    So are you denying Abu Graib?

    Why should the US not be put under the same scrutiny as other nations? Why should the US, as the only nation, be given a free pass when it comes to organisations looking into its human rights record? Like it or not the US history on human rights is as bad as the nations on the 47 member UNHRC and in some cases, far worse.
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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So are you denying that a state in the union has not just "banned" the usage of Sharia law but not other religious laws?

    Since human rights abuses are so integral to Sharia, then banning this barbarity is hardly a sign of human rights abuse, itself.

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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I have serious concerns about the U.S. allowing its human rights record to be reviewed by the UN Human Rights Council. That body has been anything but impartial. While I expect that the record has its share of issues, my larger concern is that the U.S. gesture will provide the UNHRC with a measure of credibility that it does not deserve until it addresses its own internal issues.
    Why does it concern you? It's not like we're going to listen to anything they say.

    Edit: Also, do people not understand that it's possible to be both critical of America and critical of terrorists at the same time? America bombs buildings, kills innocent people: bad. Terrorist bombs buildings, kills innocent people: bad.
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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why does it concern you? It's not like we're going to listen to anything they say.



    This I can agree with, the only concern I would have is the moron in charge surrendering our sovereignty to the international house of dictators.
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

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