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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    Considering the most august body in question, it's like Al Sharpton submitting his record to the k.k.k for review.
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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Considering the most august body in question, it's like Al Sharpton submitting his record to the k.k.k for review.
    You know the sad thing, sometimes he does so much to discredit his own race he would actually pass review

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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    A bit too late. Should have happened just as Obama took office and not now that the Republicans have retaken the House.

    The US is no different than any country on the planet, and should be open to any review on its human rights record. I have no doubt that 90%+ of the record is great, but no country has a perfect human rights record and especially the US.. with its history of racially motivated laws and segregation.

    But as usual, the US right with the usual suspects on these boards, have and will try to make this about the UNHRC and take all focus away from the US. That they can even float the idea that because the UNHRC council has questionable human rights countries on its membership, that it is okay not to have such a review... is typical right wing arrogance ... and it plays right into the hands of those nations... why should they do anything about their human rights when the US wont even put it self under review...
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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    But what if we have a legitimate concern with the KSA and Libya dictating to America the violations of human rights that they believe are wrong? It's all subjective and can be seen with these nations asking the US to close GITMO and other political things. The UNHRC has no right to pass judgement on other nations while some of the most disgusting human rights atrocities take place within member states openly and unopposed by their governments.
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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    But what if we have a legitimate concern with the KSA and Libya dictating to America the violations of human rights that they believe are wrong? It's all subjective and can be seen with these nations asking the US to close GITMO and other political things. The UNHRC has no right to pass judgement on other nations while some of the most disgusting human rights atrocities take place within member states openly and unopposed by their governments.
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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    The US is no different than any country on the planet, and should be open to any review on its human rights record. I have no doubt that 90%+ of the record is great, but no country has a perfect human rights record and especially the US.. with its history of racially motivated laws and segregation.
    LOL

    Yes, when I think of racially motivated laws and segregation, the US is certainly the first one that comes to mind. The EU has never had any problems with race, it's all a perfect paradise.
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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    any judgement from any comically comprised unhrc will naturally reflect tinpot 3rd world politics

    ie, NOT justice

    get real

    the un is a joke

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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    LOL

    Yes, when I think of racially motivated laws and segregation, the US is certainly the first one that comes to mind. The EU has never had any problems with race, it's all a perfect paradise.
    Homosexual discrimination
    - Marriage
    - Employment
    - Military
    African American discrimination (mostly before the civil rights movements, but even now some would claim discrimination exists in our laws/law enforcement/prisons)
    - Slavery
    - Voting
    - Owning land
    - Segregation
    - The KKK movement
    Discrimination against women (there have been big advancements in women's rights, but some will claim women are still discriminated against)
    Racially profiling Hispanic people
    Discriminating against Muslims including hate speech and the protesting of Mosques


    Discrimination in America has existed (both in laws and in how Americans treat other Americans) and in some cases discrimination continues to this day. America isn't the first country that comes to mind when I think of human rights violations, but that doesn't mean the U.S. is not on the list at all.

    Just because we have a better human rights record than many of the countries that are criticizing us now doesn't mean we should show them the middle finger and walk out of the room.

    Yes, the more current issues we are dealing with are no where near as bad as stoning people to death or killing homosexuals. But lets not forget that many of these issues being brought up by members of the U.N.H.R.C. have already been brought up by Americans. Regardless of what other countries say about us, every effort should be made in identifying areas where we don't live up to our proud statement that "All men are created equal".
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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    Homosexual discrimination
    - Marriage
    - Employment
    - Military
    African American discrimination (mostly before the civil rights movements, but even now some would claim discrimination exists in our laws/law enforcement/prisons)
    - Slavery
    - Voting
    - Owning land
    - Segregation
    - The KKK movement
    Discrimination against women (there have been big advancements in women's rights, but some will claim women are still discriminated against)
    Racially profiling Hispanic people
    Discriminating against Muslims including hate speech and the protesting of Mosques


    Discrimination in America has existed (both in laws and in how Americans treat other Americans) and in some cases discrimination continues to this day. America isn't the first country that comes to mind when I think of human rights violations, but that doesn't mean the U.S. is not on the list at all.

    Just because we have a better human rights record than many of the countries that are criticizing us now doesn't mean we should show them the middle finger and walk out of the room.

    Yes, the more current issues we are dealing with are no where near as bad as stoning people to death or killing homosexuals. But lets not forget that many of these issues being brought up by members of the U.N.H.R.C. have already been brought up by Americans. Regardless of what other countries say about us, every effort should be made in identifying areas where we don't live up to our proud statement that "All men are created equal".
    Now, I'm the first person to come out against my own country when it comes to a racist history. But are you seriously comparing Europe to the U.S.? Are we talking about the same Europe where Leopold the II comes from? The same Europe which has kept an entire continent under perpetual dependency in one form or another for over 400 years? The same Europe that won't let a Muslim woman chose whether she wants to wear a hijab or not? Are we talking about that Europe? Look Jucon, right now as I see it we have two options:

    You can throw American history in the face of American posters

    or

    We can talk about European atrocities on an entire continent and their own.

    The choice is yours really.
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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    A bit too late. Should have happened just as Obama took office and not now that the Republicans have retaken the House.

    The US is no different than any country on the planet, and should be open to any review on its human rights record. I have no doubt that 90%+ of the record is great, but no country has a perfect human rights record and especially the US.. with its history of racially motivated laws and segregation.

    But as usual, the US right with the usual suspects on these boards, have and will try to make this about the UNHRC and take all focus away from the US. That they can even float the idea that because the UNHRC council has questionable human rights countries on its membership, that it is okay not to have such a review... is typical right wing arrogance ... and it plays right into the hands of those nations... why should they do anything about their human rights when the US wont even put it self under review...
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