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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Is it your opinion that America has done nothing wrong or is it your opinion that we shouldn't care?
    It's my opinion, that 1) America has done nothing wrong and 2) even if we had, it's nowhere close to what China, Russia, Lybia, Uganda, Senegal, Thailand and Cuba have done and are still doing and 3) Because the UNHRC is made up, mostly, of despotically ruled countries, it's a ****ing joke!
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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's my opinion, that 1) America has done nothing wrong and 2) even if we had, it's nowhere close to what China, Russia, Lybia, Uganda, Senegal, Thailand and Cuba have done and are still doing and 3) Because the UNHRC is made up, mostly, of despotically ruled countries, it's a ****ing joke!


    Ok then, have a nice day!

    This explains a lot actually. Thanks.
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    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yes, these members also include the U.S., France, Spain, Belgium etc. The point is for the U.S. to not hand down judgement while keeping its own record a hush-hush secret.
    Were any previously-secret actions disclosed, or was this simply a rehashing of what everyone already knew?
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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Were any previously-secret actions disclosed, or was this simply a rehashing of what everyone already knew?
    Who cares, America has never done anything wrong!
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    U.N. Human Rights Council Takes Aim at New Target: United States - FoxNews.com

    Russia urged the U.S. to abolish the death penalty. Cuba and Iran called on Washington to close Guantanamo prison and investigate alleged torture by its troops abroad. Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation, told the U.S. it must better promote religious tolerance. Mexico complained that racial profiling had become a common practice in some U.S. states.
    I will agree with most people here that the U.S. has done a lot of good in the world concerning human rights, but that doesn't mean we don't have skeletons in the closet that can or should be addressed.

    Concerning the things addressed in this quote:
    - Some criminals are deserving of the death penalty, but I am still against it. I'm honestly shocked that Russia doesn't have a death penalty.
    - Guantanamo prison needs to be closed. We imprison terrorists in the U.S. already. There is no reason we ever needed Gitmo. All it does is give America-bashers one more reason to hate us.
    - There needs to be investigations in the allegations that troops were told not to stop torture in Iraq by Iraqis. And I'd appreciate it being proven that we never handed off suspects to other countries so they could be tortured into talking. But to be honest I'm pretty convinced it has happened.
    - The government can't really do anything to promote religious tolerance of Muslims. The 9/11 attacks scarred a lot of people emotionally, and unfortunately some people just don't know the difference between a Muslim and an Islamic extremist. You can't always educate people whose minds are already made up. I'd like to hear exactly what Indonesia wants us to do. If their suggestions include integrating sharia law into our judicial system, they can screw themselves.
    - And maybe if Mexico was doing it's part to keep it's citizens from entering our country illegally (not to mention upping the efforts to destroy the cartels), we wouldn't have millions of illegal immigrants in the U.S. and we wouldn't have as many people racially profiling Hispanic people.
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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    Let's look at some members of the UNHRC:

    Angola, Burkina Faso, Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, Nigeria, Uganda (considering death penalty for gays), China (communist), Saudi (monarchy), Pakistan (all kinds of screwed up), Cuba (a totalitarian dictatorship), Ecuador (is their government even in place?), Mexico (still has police?) and Turkey.

    There's definately a need to prioritize the US for improvement! haha

    Stupid UN

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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Let's look at some members of the UNHRC:

    Angola, Burkina Faso, Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, Nigeria, Uganda (considering death penalty for gays), China (communist), Saudi (monarchy), Pakistan (all kinds of screwed up), Cuba (a totalitarian dictatorship), Ecuador (is their government even in place?), Mexico (still has police?) and Turkey.

    There's definately a need to prioritize the US for improvement! haha

    Stupid UN
    That's my point. You would think--given events all over the world--that the UNHRC would have bigger fish to fry.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Let's look at some members of the UNHRC:

    Angola, Burkina Faso, Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, Nigeria, Uganda (considering death penalty for gays), China (communist), Saudi (monarchy), Pakistan (all kinds of screwed up), Cuba (a totalitarian dictatorship), Ecuador (is their government even in place?), Mexico (still has police?) and Turkey.

    There's definately a need to prioritize the US for improvement! haha

    Stupid UN
    I reject the idea that "since everyone else has their flaws, we don't deserve to be criticized". No one is perfect, and that includes America. I'm one to appreciate constructive criticism. Through accepting our flaws we can improve upon them and continue to be a great role model for the world.
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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    I reject the idea that "since everyone else has their flaws, we don't deserve to be criticized". No one is perfect, and that includes America. I'm one to appreciate constructive criticism. Through accepting our flaws we can improve upon them and continue to be a great role model for the world.
    This isn't about improving anything. It's the usual, "beat up on the United States, because we hate their freedom", fest.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. offers its human rights record for U.N. review

    they seem to be making political judgements and slapping "human rights" to it. The death penalty and GITMO are not a violation of human rights. Other nations are interjecting their political opinions in the name of "human rights" to try and make America look bad and bring about a political change. It's all political. America should take action when Saudi Arabians are allowed to freely practice religion.
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