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    Re: AARP Raises Costs for Employees' Insurance Plans

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    Like unoins what? I'm not a union person myself, but yes, a union should consider what is best for it's employees, and that is often linked to democrat policy. Why? Because those policies are in the best interest of the working person in general.

    How so? Unions often strangle the companies they infest, causing a loss of that company in the long run. So how is that in the working mans best interest?


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    Re: AARP Raises Costs for Employees' Insurance Plans

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    How so? Unions often strangle the companies they infest, causing a loss of that company in the long run. So how is that in the working mans best interest?


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    That's a generalization. True, in some cases unions have gotten corrupt and did poor jobs. But remember what working conditions were before unions. There's no doubt that unions gave voice to the working man and allowed him to make changes he could not have made alone.

    Again, I don't belong to a union. Never have. But I've read history, and understand how this all works. Employers are not always good to those who work for them, and the imbalance of power often has led to abuses in the past that were tragic for working people. Unions help change that, and part of that was voting for people who were really concerned with working man issues, too often democrats.

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    Re: AARP Raises Costs for Employees' Insurance Plans

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's a generalization. True, in some cases unions have gotten corrupt and did poor jobs. But remember what working conditions were before unions. There's no doubt that unions gave voice to the working man and allowed him to make changes he could not have made alone.

    Again, I don't belong to a union. Never have. But I've read history, and understand how this all works. Employers are not always good to those who work for them, and the imbalance of power often has led to abuses in the past that were tragic for working people. Unions help change that, and part of that was voting for people who were really concerned with working man issues, too often democrats.
    If it weren’t for corporations abusing the rights of the workingman there wouldn’t have been a need for unions in the first place.
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    Re: AARP Raises Costs for Employees' Insurance Plans

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Like unoins what? I'm not a union person myself, but yes, a union should consider what is best for it's employees, and that is often linked to democrat policy. Why? Because those policies are in the best interest of the working person in general.
    Wrong Unions are an arm of the democrat party. They care about pollitics not the people.

    Reid got elected by Harrah and the unions there

    Harrah’s Bosses Put Squeeze on Employees to Vote in Pro-Reid Effort - By Elizabeth Crum - Battle

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    Re: AARP Raises Costs for Employees' Insurance Plans

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    If it weren’t for corporations abusing the rights of the workingman there wouldn’t have been a need for unions in the first place.
    There was a need 75 years ago. The unions have abused their power and now care more about electing democrats that they do their members.

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    Re: AARP Raises Costs for Employees' Insurance Plans

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    Wrong Unions are an arm of the democrat party.


    Yet the teamsters union indorsed more republican Presidents than Democratic Presidents. Amazing isn’t it?
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    Re: AARP Raises Costs for Employees' Insurance Plans

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    If it weren’t for corporations abusing the rights of the workingman there wouldn’t have been a need for unions in the first place.
    Exactly. If corporations uniformly treated their employees with respect and dignity, and paid them enough to actually put food on the table and a roof over the workers' heads, unions might not have come into existence.

    Unfortunately, some unions are corrupt, and only seem to exist to take dues money out of members' (who may find union membership compulsory due to a "closed shop") paychecks. Funny how some conservatives are so indignant about that but don't show a shred of outrage over the awful way some employers treat their employees.

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    Re: AARP Raises Costs for Employees' Insurance Plans

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Wrong Unions are an arm of the democrat party. They care about pollitics not the people.

    Reid got elected by Harrah and the unions there

    Harrah’s Bosses Put Squeeze on Employees to Vote in Pro-Reid Effort - By Elizabeth Crum - Battle
    Why would they care about candidates regardless of the the needs of their memebers? I believe you are mixing things up. People do vote contrary to their needs. There may be reasons for that. But if the union is looking for the best concerning their memebers on the whole, they may want to strongly support a candidate.

    Not suggesting anyone should force anyone to vote for anyone. Just showing your thinking is not as clear or sound as you believe.

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    Re: AARP Raises Costs for Employees' Insurance Plans

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdzeye View Post
    Exactly. If corporations uniformly treated their employees with respect and dignity, and paid them enough to actually put food on the table and a roof over the workers' heads, unions might not have come into existence.

    Unfortunately, some unions are corrupt, and only seem to exist to take dues money out of members' (who may find union membership compulsory due to a "closed shop") paychecks. Funny how some conservatives are so indignant about that but don't show a shred of outrage over the awful way some employers treat their employees.
    Your right and we have plenty drinking the Corp kool-aid on this thread.
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    Re: AARP Raises Costs for Employees' Insurance Plans

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Yet the teamsters union indorsed more republican Presidents than Democratic Presidents. Amazing isn’t it?
    Show proof. I was in the union I know how they work.

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