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    Re: Sen. Patty Murray wins fourth term

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Actually, that is not true. Gore cherry picked the counties to be recounted, and that is one of the main reasons that SCOTUS got involved.
    true, if the SCOFLAW had granted Gorebot the relief he sought, Bush still would have beat him

    the Dems screwed themselves by trying to extend the contest period and shorten the protest period and perhaps taking florida outside the safe harbor provisions for the electoral college



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    Why did Al Gore insist that the military vote not be counted? Do the Leftists hate our servicemen so much, that their votes shouldn't count?
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    Re: Sen. Patty Murray wins fourth term

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Why did Al Gore insist that the military vote not be counted? Do the Leftists hate our servicemen so much, that their votes shouldn't count?
    the obvious answer is YES



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    Re: Sen. Patty Murray wins fourth term

    From your own link...

    "In all likelihood, George W. Bush still would have won Florida and the presidency last year if either of two limited recounts -- one requested by Al Gore, the other ordered by the Florida Supreme Court -- had been completed"

    If you're looking at the National Opinion Research Center finding - it makes very hefty assuptions that someone would have convinced the FSC to change their recount criteria to include overvotes (something neither party requested), that such a request would have been granted, that standards such as "dimple or visible mark" would be allowed as valid under Florida law, etc. etc.

    In the very unlikely event that all of that occurred, the count still would have been different - NORC didn't actually recount everything, they looked at the less than 3% considered undervotes and overvotes - a sample of 175,037 they admit is only approximate and certainly could have varied at the time. So too would have the count, when performed by hundreds of poll workers over a number of days rather than a handful of accountants over a few months. Even still, in NORC's most likely scenario for Gore, he wins with just 60 votes... that's 0.03% of the number of ballots they examined and WELL within the margin of error for a manual recount.

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    Re: Sen. Patty Murray wins fourth term

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    From your own link...

    "In all likelihood, George W. Bush still would have won Florida and the presidency last year if either of two limited recounts -- one requested by Al Gore, the other ordered by the Florida Supreme Court -- had been completed"

    If you're looking at the National Opinion Research Center finding - it makes very hefty assuptions that someone would have convinced the FSC to change their recount criteria to include overvotes (something neither party requested), that such a request would have been granted, that standards such as "dimple or visible mark" would be allowed as valid under Florida law, etc. etc.

    In the very unlikely event that all of that occurred, the count still would have been different - NORC didn't actually recount everything, they looked at the less than 3% considered undervotes and overvotes - a sample of 175,037 they admit is only approximate and certainly could have varied at the time. So too would have the count, when performed by hundreds of poll workers over a number of days rather than a handful of accountants over a few months. Even still, in NORC's most likely scenario for Gore, he wins with just 60 votes... that's 0.03% of the number of ballots they examined and WELL within the margin of error for a manual recount.
    That should put the Bush Derangement Syndrome sufferers to bed

    good job



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    Re: Sen. Patty Murray wins fourth term

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Why did Al Gore insist that the military vote not be counted? Do the Leftists hate our servicemen so much, that their votes shouldn't count?
    That, too! People who tout the National Opinion Research Center study as proof more people voted for Gore also fail to realize that scores of military votes were discarded because the postmark wasn't legible, the soldier forgot to sign, etc. - such votes were never given the "slightly dimpled, trace of a mark, corner slightly detached" treatment.

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    Re: Sen. Patty Murray wins fourth term

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    If SCOTUS didn't overturn the Florida Supreme Court decision which was to hand recount the entire state in 2000, Al Gore would have been president.
    I suppose you think the SCOTUS decision to throw out the recount standard was 5-4, too.
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    Re: Sen. Patty Murray wins fourth term

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I believe most honest people understand he won one of those elections

    Patty Murray is one of the biggest morons in the senate BTW
    Per Wikipedia:

    ".....In October 2002, Murray was one of 21 Democrats in the Senate to vote against the War Authoritization for invading Iraq. Quoted from her Senate speech:

    'Mr. President, if we do take action in Iraq, there is no doubt that our armed forces will prevail. We will win a war with Iraq decisively, and, God willing, we will win it quickly. But what happens after the war? That will have as big an impact on our future peace and security. Will we be obligated to rebuild Iraq? If so, how? Our economy is reeling, our budget is in deficit, and we have no estimate of the cost of rebuilding. And with whom? As New York Times columnist Tom Friedman points out, there's a retail store mentality that suggests to some — if "you break it, you buy it.'...."

    One of the most insightful, if not intelligent things said on the floor of the senate during 2002/2003. On that comment alone she shows herself to hold the intellectual curiosity, command of the issues and intestinal fortitude to be a good senator. At the very least she possesses more IQ points than the sum of that of Angle + O'Donnell.

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    Patty Murray going back to the Senate? Great news!
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    Re: Sen. Patty Murray wins fourth term

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Per Wikipedia:

    ".....In October 2002, Murray was one of 21 Democrats in the Senate to vote against the War Authoritization for invading Iraq. Quoted from her Senate speech:

    'Mr. President, if we do take action in Iraq, there is no doubt that our armed forces will prevail. We will win a war with Iraq decisively, and, God willing, we will win it quickly. But what happens after the war? That will have as big an impact on our future peace and security. Will we be obligated to rebuild Iraq? If so, how? Our economy is reeling, our budget is in deficit, and we have no estimate of the cost of rebuilding. And with whom? As New York Times columnist Tom Friedman points out, there's a retail store mentality that suggests to some — if "you break it, you buy it.'...."

    One of the most insightful, if not intelligent things said on the floor of the senate during 2002/2003. On that comment alone she shows herself to hold the intellectual curiosity, command of the issues and intestinal fortitude to be a good senator. At the very least she possesses more IQ points than the sum of that of Angle + O'Donnell.
    she's a low IQ lightweight-one comment she may or may not have actually thought up herself proves nothing. And I always have said ODonnell was a doofus.



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