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    Re: Republicans to attack healthcare law funding

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    LOL, it's basically already done. Much of it is not yet funded, and now never will be.
    Actually almost all of it is entitlement spending, which is automatic and requires no congressional vote. There are a few bits and pieces of the law that are discretionary spending which could potentially be defunded...but they are small parts of the law, and aren't really that controversial.

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    Re: Republicans to attack healthcare law funding

    "Victorious at the polls, congressional Republicans asserted their newfound political strength on Thursday, vowing to seek a quick $100 billion in federal spending cuts and force repeated votes on repeal of President Barack Obama's prized health care overhaul."

    So, the above will be the Republican's first order of business...

    1- Help our struggling economy? No, attacking President Obama is much more important. So check

    2- Help regenerate jobs while providing universal and affordable job training for millions of Americans? No, however President Obama must be taught a lesson. So check


    - I see a theme here folks.-


    3- Help small business owners stay in business while guiding them into hiring more employees again? No, yet it's our Godly mission as Republicans to punish President Obama. So check

    4- Provide the millions of Americans and our guest with affordable health coverage? God no! These poor Americans must understand if you are not wealthy you do not deserve quality health coverage. And simply screw our guests yet when our Republican lawns need trimming, it's Paulo we will call. Repeal. So check

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    5- Deregulate everything President Obama helped regulate so far? Yes that is a double check. Large businesses including those in energy and finance do not need regulations; they simply need a harsh talking too....
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    So, the first order of business in the house is to clearly punish President Obama. I cannot see how anyone with common sense cannot see this also. This will be a horrible situation for a president who is trying. Now he has to combat against very rich and angry Republicans who's agenda was not meant to help this struggling nation as a whole, rather to play parisian politics and bring America back to the socially, racially, politically, and economically divided country we were and always have been it seems. At least President Obama got folks to see we can be equals one day.

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    Re: Republicans to attack healthcare law funding

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Yep, the voters are just beating down the doors of Congress DEMANDING that their insurers be allowed to kick them off plans after they get sick, discriminate against them for preexisting conditions. They are just FURIOUS that the government stepped in to make sure that all children have health care, and that all adults will soon be able to purchase it.

    You do realize that of those people who say they don't like the bill, at least some of them are unhappy because it didn't go far ENOUGH?
    57% did not like the Democrats health care bill and wanted them to start OVER. Is there some part of that that's not understandable? Maybe the Democrats will hear us in 2012 after another major "shellacking" as Obama put it. 2012 is perfect as 21 Democrat Senate seats are up then.
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    Re: Republicans to attack healthcare law funding

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Actually almost all of it is entitlement spending, which is automatic and requires no congressional vote. There are a few bits and pieces of the law that are discretionary spending which could potentially be defunded...but they are small parts of the law, and aren't really that controversial.

    Sure you will.
    Both Biden and Pelosi came out publicly and said they would retain control of the House. How many seats did they lose?
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    Re: Republicans to attack healthcare law funding

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    57% did not like the Democrats health care bill and wanted them to start OVER. Is there some part of that that's not understandable?
    Yeah. Some of those 57% were people who wanted the law to do MORE, not LESS.
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    Re: Republicans to attack healthcare law funding

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    Both Biden and Pelosi came out publicly and said they would retain control of the House. How many seats did they lose?
    Huh? Relevance?
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    Re: Republicans to attack healthcare law funding

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Yeah. Some of those 57% were people who wanted the law to do MORE, not LESS.
    Well, more isn't always better. Maybe the health care changes just need to be relevant and perhaps, reduce costs - like we heard the original bill was supposed to do and then we found out it didn't because it because Congress left an unprotected copy with ideological idiots in closed rooms.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Republicans to attack healthcare law funding

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Well, more isn't always better. Maybe the health care changes just need to be relevant and perhaps, reduce costs - like we heard the original bill was supposed to do and then we found out it didn't because it because Congress left an unprotected copy with ideological idiots in closed rooms.
    Oh please. The health care reform law is virtually identical to the law that Republican Mitt Romney passed in Massachusetts.
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    Re: Republicans to attack healthcare law funding

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Yeah. Some of those 57% were people who wanted the law to do MORE, not LESS.
    Got any evidence from a reliable source to back that up how many or are you just talking out of your backside?

    The Relevance of Biden and Pelosi is most liberals don't know a lick about what they are talking about. That must be why so few post links to reliable sources to back up their assertions.

    I'll defer to Reagan on that matter.

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    Re: Republicans to attack healthcare law funding

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Oh please. The health care reform law is virtually identical to the law that Republican Mitt Romney passed in Massachusetts.
    Yes it is and at the 4 year mark it was already in serious financial trouble.

    Massachusetts Takes a Step Back From Health Care for All

    By ABBY GOODNOUGH
    Published: July 14, 2009

    BOSTON — The new state budget in Massachusetts eliminates health care coverage for some 30,000 legal immigrants to help close a growing deficit, reversing progress toward universal coverage just as Congress looks to the state as a model for overhauling the nation’s health care system.

    The affected immigrants, permanent residents who have had green cards for less than five years, are now covered under Commonwealth Care, a subsidized insurance program for low-income residents that is central to the groundbreaking health care law enacted here in 2006.

    Critics of the cut, which would save an estimated $130 million, say it unfairly targets taxpaying residents and threatens the state’s health care experiment at a critical time.

    “It either sends the message that health care reform cannot be done, period,” said Eva Millona, executive director of the Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy Coalition, “or it opens the door to doing it halfway and excluding immigrants from the process.”

    Gov. Deval Patrick has proposed restoring $70 million to the program, which would partly restore the immigrants’ coverage. But legislative leaders have balked, saying vital programs for other groups would have to be cut as a result. The cut, which would affect only nondisabled adults from 18 to 65 years old, would take effect in August unless the legislature approves Mr. Patrick’s proposal.

    “The governor has made a very good and compelling case relative to providing for legal immigrants,” Robert A. DeLeo, the speaker of the State House of Representatives, said Monday. “On the other hand, there is only so much money that we have.”

    With tax collections down by $2.7 billion in the fiscal year that ended June 30 and still dropping, lawmakers may have no choice but to make further cuts in the $27 billion budget approved this month. That makes Mr. Patrick’s proposal all the more problematic, according to the Massachusetts Taxpayers Foundation, a nonpartisan watchdog group.

    If the full $130 million cut survives, hospitals that provide free care to the poor will need to spend an additional $87 million this year treating immigrants who lose their coverage, according to the Massachusetts Hospital Association. That would come on top of a $40 million cut in the state’s Health Safety Net, which reimburses such hospitals, said Tim Gens, the association’s executive vice president.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/us/15insure.html?_r=1
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