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    Re: China pressures European governments over Nobel

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    How many people would want a congressional medal of honour or purple heart or that presidential medal Bush gave to his friends? You might not understand or like the Nobel Peace Prize because it was given to someone you dont like or think deserves it, but that does not make the prize a joke.
    It's a joke because there is nothing serious about it. To get a nobel peace prize is essentially the same as getting a billion dollars: being at the right place, at the right time. I'm never going to win won, so why should I care? I don't even look at the nominees, or even know when they meet.

    So it is only "recent" non-American's and wrong Americans then?
    Elie Wiesel isn't recent?

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    Re: China pressures European governments over Nobel

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    It's a joke because there is nothing serious about it. To get a nobel peace prize is essentially the same as getting a billion dollars: being at the right place, at the right time. I'm never going to win won, so why should I care? I don't even look at the nominees, or even know when they meet.
    Mandela was there at the right place, right time, or Aung San Suu Kyi, or Mother Teresa, or Martin Luther King Jr.?

    They have made very serious achievements, certainly the likes of Obama or Gore didn't deserve it, but they are overshadowed by the many who did.
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    Re: China pressures European governments over Nobel

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Mandela was there at the right place, right time, or Aung San Suu Kyi, or Mother Teresa, or Martin Luther King Jr.?

    They have made very serious achievements, certainly the likes of Obama or Gore didn't deserve it, but they are overshadowed by the many who did.
    Well, I will concede, wrong place at the right time. :P

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    Re: China pressures European governments over Nobel

    I think that peoples' opinions about past recipients is a separate issue from the Chinese government's reaction to Liu Xiaobo getting the award this year. The PRC is behaving like a bully towards other nations in its effort to get others to boycott the ceremony.

    I'm wondering what's going to happen with the award money. Liu Xiaobo is in prison now. Will the PRC confiscate the award from him and sock it into the PRC coffers? Is there a way to prevent that from happening?

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    Re: China pressures European governments over Nobel

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdzeye View Post
    I think that peoples' opinions about past recipients is a separate issue from the Chinese government's reaction to Liu Xiaobo getting the award this year. The PRC is behaving like a bully towards other nations in its effort to get others to boycott the ceremony.

    I'm wondering what's going to happen with the award money. Liu Xiaobo is in prison now. Will the PRC confiscate the award from him and sock it into the PRC coffers? Is there a way to prevent that from happening?
    The only way to prevent it would be to hold on to the money until Liu can get out of the country.
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    Re: China pressures European governments over Nobel

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    How many people would want a congressional medal of honour or purple heart or that presidential medal Bush gave to his friends? You might not understand or like the Nobel Peace Prize because it was given to someone you dont like or think deserves it, but that does not make the prize a joke.
    It does when it get awarded to a terrorist.
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    Re: China pressures European governments over Nobel

    Or when it gets awarded to individuals for purely political reasons. That diminishes the relevance considerably.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: China pressures European governments over Nobel

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Let me guess.. because non-American's win it all the time, and/or the "wrong" American's do win it?
    I'd say HELL NO it's because the fools gave it to Obama for being the Black Appeaser in Chief, and accomplishing not one damn thing.

    If they gave an award for doing nothing right and everything wrong Obama's the number one contender.
    Last edited by Councilman; 11-04-10 at 11:44 AM.

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